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Serbia must declare that Kosovo is an occupied territory and buy arms from Russia to get it back, said today the Serbian Orthodox Church Bishop Artemije in charge of the Raska-Prizren Eparchy, where Kosovo is included, for Serbian daily Glas Javnosti.
“Serbia must buy armaments from Russia and other countries, and ask Russia to send volunteers and build a military presence in Serbia.” “Kosovo was and will always be Serbian,” stated Bishop Artemije, adding that independence declaration will be “a temporary state of occupation.” He called the Serb Military Chief of Staff Zdravko Ponos that Kosovo will not be defended militarily “an embarrassment.”
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Durim Myzyraj
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... To Jason. You are forgetting that the reason for Kosovo´s independence is not because of some historical claim by albanians, but it is the claim for ones right to live and prosper in the land that they were born in. This right is no longer exclusively given to the serbs, but it is now a unnegotiable right to all the people of Kosovo, regardless of ethnicity or religion. |
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... @ JOE DOE... no what he,s trying to tell you is?,,, get the f$$k out my land,,, served in kosovo for 2 yrs and seen it all,,, now based in history Kosovo was always part of albania and kosovo belongs to kosovan-albanians,, simple as that,, as 4 bishop talking out of his ass,, that makes me laugh,,, then again what wld u expect from serb though,, war crimes torture rape etc,,, i say happy indep Kosovo and wish u all the best and peacful future... greetings from United Kingdom... u have our support Kosovo,, |
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... JOE DOE, YOU EITHER CAN"T READ, OR DON"T CARE TO WHEN IT"S NOT CONVENIENT TO YOU! YOU SHOULD BE IGNORED BY ALL, IN THE SAME MANNER YOU IGNORE THE TRUTH! OPEN YOUR MIND!!! |
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... Valon, lol. You are basically saying where ever Albanians live they should have their little country- lol. Some of them live here in the US - i hope you dont do that here too. Well in 50yrs maybe... |
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... Hey GOZZ, What you are saying is once again based completely on your perception of history, which has been actively formulated and fabricated by Serbia and the help it's ally and big brother Russia. This has been an active goal of Serbia since Serbia's it gained it's independence from the Ottoman Empire. It was in Serbia's interest to erase any trace of Albanian primacy to all lands in which they live, and Serbs had forcefully occupied. It is fact that to some degree Serbs have actually achieved their goal. Areas such as the current Southern Serbia, and Novi Pazar's have been completely cleansed of the Albanian presence, both physical as well as well as historic. Whereas once Albanians constituted a Majority these areas, Albanians were either eliminated physically or forced to move. If anyone really would like to know statistics about who was a majority way back then, they may help themselves to historic archives of the Roman Catholic Church in the Vatican, or the Museums of the Ottoman Empire in Turkey. There even exist documents proving clear statistic data of population distribution in Kosova and the entire Balkans during the ottoman occupation. You should not be astounded to realize that Albanians have constituted a majority in all of the lands they inhabit today, and in many more where they do no longer live today because they were forced out or assimilated. Anyone who knows the geography of Albania proper and compares the size of the two countries can deduce that 1. Albania as a country because of it's very rugged and inhospitable terrain through most of it's country could never sustain a very large population. 2. Kosova is a third of it's size, and 60% of it's population in comparison. 3. For Kosova to be filled up with Albanians from Albania, Albania would have to have been completely abandoned and emptied. There is zero logic in that, but the Serb Academy of Sciences never cared for logic. What they cared for was "How to Deal with the Albanian Problem" in Kosova, as was the title of the work of Mr. Cubrilovic, the leader of the aforementioned nationalist-fascist institution who covered themselves under the false umbrella of scholasticism and pseudo-intelectuality. They dealt in deceit, rape and mass murder, that was their true historic Credo. Anyone who cares to know and learn, will find out about the plight and fight of the Albanians to stay free and keep their land together, when the onslaught of their Balkan neighbors was upon them not once but twice, in the Balkan wars. After the conference of Berlin, the western Powers were playing Monopoly with the European lands that were still under the Turkish yoke, ALBANIAN LANDS. Whereas all of the Slavic nations who suffered under Turkey, gained their independence through the pressure of their big ally, and big brother Russia, the Greeks had their independence through the help of England and France. Albania on the other hand was completely forsaken, no brother found, no compassionate hand extended. So...we fended for ourselves, When the conference of Berlin had decided that the Albanian lands were to be fair game for Serbia, Montenegro, Bulgaria, and Greece, the Albanians found the league of Prizren (a city in KOSOVA). Leaders from all the Albanians lands had gathered, and made an oath and agreement, to die to the last one before they would let Albanian lands be torn apart by the hungry wolfs of the Balkans. And the lands were defended, one after another from four occupying armies, while also fighting the Turks on their backs. However, as history would have it, one by one those leaders were picked out one by one and assassinated, murdered and betrayed, and the eventually battles lost, and the people conquered. And so it is that the Albanian lands that are not part of Albania proper today are KOSOVA, WESTERN MACEDONIA, SOUTHERN SERBIA, SOUTHERN MONTENEGRO, and NORTHERN GREECE. All of this is brief and simplistic in the explanation for the sake of brevity, but if you really would like to find out whether it's so indeed you'd have to look outside of Serbia' libraries. ENJOY YOUR READING...but be careful...You may find yourself to be an Albanian!!! |
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... Hi Edon, so you do admit that Serbia once had a "moral, historical and legal rights to Kosovo", since we've recently lost it?? Who lived there 500 years ago before the Ottomans arrived to conquer Eastern Europe? Who fought to stop, or at least slow, the progression of the Ottoman Empire into Europe? Who lived in Kosovo before Tito opened the borders and invited Albanians into the province?! Was it already Albanians or was it Serbs? I dont see a need to throw about words like 'facist' either... apart from that I thank you for your contribution to this meaningful debate! |
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... Hey JOE DOE, They were growing poppy seeds in Afganistan long before you knew about it, and Afganistan's allways been a backwater frontier region, never friendly to any foreign force whatsoever since Alexander's days. And besides that there is no warm relationship fostered towards America (or the west), in the hearts of Afgani's in the historic sense like is the case with Albania and Kosova. WE REMEBER OUR FRIENDS, and hold them dear. Serbs allways had Russia, while in the past Albanians reluctantly and barely had USA, and now for the first time in history, in the midst of the information age, when truth cannot be denied, we have found our full fledged support from the enlightened democracies of the west, forebearers of Justice and progressive human civilization, with USA at the helm. Justice is served, and human values stand bright today! Salutes to USA, UK, France, Italy, Germany, Turkey and the rest of the free minded countries of the world. Salutes to Kosova and Albania for bearing the brunt of time and History and persevering! |
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... Today the US is considered a friend to Albanians in Kosovo. I wonder how long before they start growing poppy seeds and embrace terrorism, "a lesson from the past". As long as Serbs and non-Serbs who are not Albanians dont return to Kosovo and foreign Islamic extremists that are there dont get kicked out soon, Kosovo doesnt have a future. I know Albanians in Kosovo were never happy even way before 1999. Which of the countries are next: Macedonia, Greece, Montenegro ... ? |
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... Hey Goz, It is against every human and international law to kill people. Or are you a fascist bischop as well. Serbia has lost every moral, historical and legal rights to Kosova. And now go back to your non western web sites |
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... Hey You "SOMEBODY WHO LEAVES IN THE REGION", you must be a very dumb "Serb", according to your logic,. And by the way, you ought to consider learning English before you try writing in that language, and maybe you should learn how to think before you try saying something. If you are trying to tell us that "you're someone who lives in the region" I can tell you that you did not live in Kosova. I grew up there, amidst my fellow Albanian's where we have always been a majority, (it is documented). We were forced out of our schools, our parents forced out of their jobs, regularly harassed, beaten, killed and tortured by bulletproof vest clad, machine-gun totting, APC driving prison thugs, you sent from Serbia and called them policemen. For 95 years since you occupied Kosova, you mercilessly Exploited it's people and resources, while giving back nothing, while denying its inhabitants any basic rights. I remember very well the propaganda full of hatred and lies you fed to all Serbs since they were little children. When I was just a little boy in the 80's, I remember being told by my Serbian neighbor's nephew Dejan who was same age as me if not younger: in Serbian, Tata mi je rekao da su svi shiftari kukavice i zivotinje, nisu ljudi -- in English, my pa told me that all "shiftari" (derogatory term for albanians) are cowards and animals, not human beings. The kid didn't live in Kosova, he lived in Serbia, and that's the instructions he got in regards to learning about Albanians. that was but a mild example (PG13) When you were saying "For some stupid people who kill, rape and pillage", you must meant the Serbs, because the numbers speak for themself's . 13,000 people were killed (civilians) in Kosova in less than 4 months, thousands missing still, many more raped and wounded, 80% of the country burnt to the ground, 90% of the populace forced to flee the country at machine-guns point. This was courtesy of the civilized, peace loving, celestial people of Serbia. I say people, not government, because those were the same people that put Milosevic in power, over and over and over again, even after it was clear as day wheat terrible, and inhuman atrocities were being committed by the Serbs in Bosnia, Croatia and Kosova. Remember SREBRENICA, where Serbs executed an entire city in one day. Even now it's the head / patriarch of your church, of THE CHURCH, is calling for war. I don't remember Christianity being a bloodbath loving religion. So then tell me, maybe you should go and ask the Albanians to apologize to you, for all you have done to them, and maybe even sign a contract for another 100 years of enslavement and torture. Yeah, I bet they will agree....and I bet that all those silly western countries just got a little confused, being silly and all, and they will in no time reverse the recognition of Kosova's independence. It was all just a little slip, easy to be corrected. And JASON, didn't they teach you in school not to voice your opinion unless you have a clear idea off what you're talking about. Oh, maybe you didn't go to school. That's OK cause obviously you're not the one calling the shots. They tend to be educated. So, sorry to all Serbs, but you guy's totally f..... up, and now you can all say good bye and go and ................. yourself's (fill in the blank). FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE KOSOVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM AT LAST LONG LIVE FREE KOSOVA LONG LIVE THE FREE WORLD LONG LIVE USA, ENGLAND, FRANCE, GERMANY, ITALY, TURKEY, AND ALL THE RIGHTEOUS NATIONS OF THE WORLD FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOM |
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... if your son or daughter claimed independence of the lounge room in your house, would you not call upon the rest of the household and neighbours to save and provide you support to win back the lounge for the use of the whole house? may i remind all of you that a non-existent country cannot claim independence from the soverignty of an internaionally recognised country... it is both against international law and kosovo specific un resolutions, including 1244. do some more non-western journalism research and you will be enlightened... God bless you all! |
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Prishtina Jason, can you emphasize in details..to be more detailed what you want. You don't need to use that kind of "diplomatic language" in order to express your oppinion. I have an impression that we can't compare Kosovo's situation with the countries you mentioned. Don't forget that serbia used its army to kill children, pregnant females, to rape 9 yrs old children, and dont forget that serbia had full support from russia at all time. you have to bear in mind that Kosovo is independent now, so, not only serbia BUT even 100 serbias and russias cant prevent Kosovo to get its place in UN and EU. I think its better for serbia and russia as well to keep doing their everyday job ...instead of getting "unpaid leave" do deal with Kosovo issue for what they will never ever be entitled to. Don't forget that NATO is committed to prevent all possible provocations from those tired countries such as serbia and russia. |
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re: Jason, Mexicans(and some other illeagal aliens) cross the border to live in USA and enjoy a decent standard of living, freedoms, to give they children good education, etc. They can't achieve it in Mexico(or any other country) and they want to live in a better country, not to make it as bad as they own... I bet they'll rather make Baja California part of US. |
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... Honeslty before peeople saying someting that is not a fact, you need to do some research and come up with the facts.Kosova has been declared Independent because of the serbians and russians, Kosova was not supoed to be declared Independent on its on land,its like U.K. declaring it in england, or U.S. doing the same thing. Yes there is some mad peeople,but there is more happy peeople because the world knows who serbians are nothing but,rapist,thugs,murderes and peeople who are two faced. As I said i talk with facts up above,saying that its not only kosova that they comited crimes,bosnia,croatia, but nothign like in kosova. There are tapes that were recorded hiden,even if you are a serb you will be ashamed of watching the torture of pregnant and elderly woman,masacring little babies,killin inocent peeople. What does it take to make the world see that serbians are murderers and FAILURE to themselves?Does it need to be another Kosova,Bosnia,Croatia murdering before the world and you out there realize that people need to live free oin their own country. GOD BLESS KOSOVA AND THE FUTURE OF KOSOVA THANK YOU: USA GERMANY UNITED KINGDOM TURKEY ALBANIA AFGHANISTAN ITALY.... AND MANY MANY MORE TO COME |
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... I really wonder what kind of religion he belongs too... it's so sad! I'm happy for my people back in Kosov and I'm wishing everyone the best! You do have Germany's support!!! Urime Pavarsija!!! |
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Freedom for the people Congratulations from Catalonia. In the latest 90's catalan anarchist unions tried to help kosova unions and UÇK against the terror of serbian state. And now we are happy about your new freedom way. Freedom is the best way to everybody. Indepence. |
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... Well done Bishop - nothing like a bit of the Christian spirit "Love your neighbour". Time to seperate yourself from the state and practice a little Christianity instead. It reminds me of my first visit to N Ireland during the trouble where I was greeted with the words - "You'll find a great many Catholics and Protestants here, but you won't find many Christians" |
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... HEY YASON i think you shoud mind your own busnines and if hapens one day anything in the u.s. and you will take it like this,thing hapens where have you been when albanians where torture in the willages or else where around KOSOVA so hey why you did not make any coment than baby boy.HEY GUES what, what about ALASKA you think it will be one day rrusian back hell no, people there are happy for being americans today its very easy for you just to blalalablalalalal dumm coment.SAY SOMETHING SMART BEFORE YOU SAY SOMETHING STUPID. |
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... Congratulations Kosova from Barcelona, from Catalonia. I hope some day my country will be free as you. |
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Congratulations Kosovo Congratulations Kosovo, and congratulations to Serbia too. The most vocal Serbs are opposed to this move of course, but really it is all for the better for everyone, including Serbs. The international community will be watching Serbs closely, it would be wise for you to embrace Kosvo as a new neighbour and treat the new nation accordingly. Now we wait for Vojvodina to one day do the same, and then the failed Yugoslav experiment will truly be over and all the Balkans will be free. |
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... Jason, the Serbian Charge d'Affaires in London tried that one already. He claimed independence for Kosova was equivalent to the UK being forced to grant independence to Kent or Sussex. I didn'notice him substantiating the implicit parallel of London murdering 13,000 Men of Kent or expelling 90 per cent of the population of Sussex. |
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if you know history than ... you can understand that this was the best decision ever made Kosovo was taken from Albania by force in 1912 by will of the world powers of the time. now the world powers of this time made it right. so you someone that lives in the region now know that how it feels to be torn apart huh???? Happy independence KOSOVO. |
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... I agree with Jason. I hope America to have the same crisis as we have here in Balkan, and all your states to want to be out from your federation , in that day we all the rest from Europe, we'll see how will be for you. How US will react? You will never understan us you do not have roots, you do not have respect for history, you know nothing about our history. It’s a sad day for us who leave in balkan countries. You do not understand us. For some stupid people who kill, rape and pillage will suffer other thousen. And the peace forces are they better? They are doing the same kill, rape and pillage.. It's the same |
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... Jason, your argument is stupid. Bot for the sake of the argument, if Washington D.C. takes thugs out of prison to kil, rape, and pillage Vermont, then the answer is yes. Hope my answer helps you somewhat. |
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Orthodox Bishop is right! I wonder if, Vermont or Lousiana may just do the same someday, maybe Florida too. How about the Indigenous peoples of the America's reclaim their territories back from US. How about Mexican's take back Arizona, Texas and Southern California. How about the Mormons take Utah. I wonder how the US will react when it starts happening in their country? Sadly enough they have a double standard for everything. |
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