Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah
Saudi Arabia's number one expressed his support for the cause of Albanians and congratulated the newest country of Europe. Jozefina Topalli gave special thanks to the King for his promise to recognize the Republic of Kosovo, stressing that such a move by the most powerful country of the Arab world would have a great influence on the Islamic Conference, which consists of around 56 countries.
Recent developments in Albania, including NATO membership and other reforms, were also discussed in the meeting.
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DMS 1
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... i hope that our people Gorani will get their wishes to have cultural atonomy recognise and given them right to have that kosovo,and macedonia,.long life to gorans around world,. |
jeton maloku
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... It does not seem that Saudi Arabia will recognize Kosova's independence. It has bee so long already and nothing has happened yet. Allah help Kosova. Allah help Albanians. May Allah guide Saudi Arabia to recognize Kosova's independence. AMEEN |
Shaikh Nooruddin
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... YOUR PEOPLE OF KSOVO MUST THANKS TO GOD IN FIRST PRIORITY, SECOND YOU MUST BELIEVE ONLY ON GOD AND PRAY FOR THE FURTHER SUCCESS OF THE COUNTRY , THAT YOU PEOPLE WILL NEVER HURT LIKE YOUR NEIGBOURING COUNTRY HURT YOU. TO MARK A DIFFERENCE YOU SHOULD WORK FOR PEACE AND IMPLEMENTATION OF ISLAMIC LAWS IN YOU COUNTRY, DONT EXPECT ANY SUPPORT FROM ANY ARAB OR MUSLIM COUNTRY. YOU MUST STAND UP YOURSELF WITH PLEASING TO ALLAH INSTEAD OF ARAB LEADER OF USA. GOD BLESS YOUR CHILDREN ,OLD,YOUNGER, MEN WOEMEN AND THE LEADER OF YOUR COUNTRY. BEST REGARDS SHAIKH NOORUDDIN |
Ardi
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... first of all i would like to thank Saudi Arabia very much for their recent support to the kosovan and hopfully they will continoue support are countrie and make even strgoner friend ship. however now more then ever we need your help which is to recognize kosovan independence soon as possible thank youuuuuu very much and the best inshalla |
FiSNiKi
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... Accept Indepedent of Kosovo this is people all muslim why not accept indepedent you support serbian people krist not support albanian people of Kosovo this is Muslim... this is shame for muslim people, and for SAUDI ARABIA |
Gëzim
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... First of all, I would like to thank UNITED ARAB EMIRATES for passing on the Recognition of the newest Independent country in the world KOSOVA. Recognizing KOSSOVA"S Independence will only build strong friend-ship. We are still today threatned by SERBIA to take away KOSOVO"S Independence and with those who yet have not recognized KOSOVO as an Independent Country acting now is the best solution of creating peace in the balkan region. Peace is what we all want to achieve in the balkans. So please RECOGNIZE KOSOVO'S INDEPENDENCE GOD BLESS US ALL. |
adhurim
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... أشهد أن لا إله إلاَّ الله و أشهد أن محمد رسول الله Thanks very much Saudi Arabia and thanks very much UAE for your support and inshallah we will have a great country |
Pejoni
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... United Arab Emirates recognized Kosova today (Tuesday 14.10.2008). We are expecting the same from Saudi Arabia the leader of the Islamic World. God bless the king. |
kujtimk
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... Latest news: Saudi Arabia and few key Arab countries to recognize Kosovo for Bajram Holiday - 30 sept. To Greekobserver - A simple "I don't like Albanians we'll do" . Do not try to get arguments to far back in history. We are not terribly enthusiatic about you people and your fellow Serbian and FYROMians either. We have suffered terribly becuase of your goverments chauvinistic policies toward us. And guess what we decided to look ahead in the future and leave the past behind. That being said, surely we are not going to ask you or anyone else what to do in our home - Kosova that is. And one more thing, after long efforts to demonize Albanians as criminals, terrorists etc. one more of your attempts failed, as you can se Albanians are not islamic fundamentalists but rather a normal European nation. Finally I will paraphrase an Albanian saying for you "If you spit upwards, the spit will come back to your face". If you demonize your neighbours that does not make you better but rather the same. It's about time to show the rest of the world that people in the Balkans are not savages who kill each other for fun, rather that are decent people who went and ordeal and finding the strenght to build e new and better future for themself. |
Fehmi
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... We thank You very much SAUDI ARABIA, now is dhe real time & a moment to have YOU in our side..... Thank You |
ushtari i shqiponjes
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... thank you very much saudi arabia from kosova and from albania!!!!!!!!!!! |
jeton maloku
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... In the name all, most gracious most merciful, there is no god but allah and muhamad(S.A.W.) is his final prophet and messenger. I have already posted 2 comments but i want to thanks Saudi Arabia once again since i am an albanian kosovar and have live throught the denecides the serbians have put us throught. Allah is the greatesat and he will be on the believers side. Muslims are the real believers and Allah will be with Kosova. thank you saudi arabia once again salamu alaykum warahmatullahi wa barakatu |
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Dritan
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... The Lord God the Almighty will Stand for Kosovo and the whole world will support his Gracious cause, because he has seen the cryings and the injustice used for centuries by Serbian Powers on Albanian People.The whole World will recognise a Free Kosovo to break the face of Evil who captivated God's People whith injustice.May the Glory of God Almighty shine upon Kosove Forever..... |
Albiqete
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... Dobrica Cosic Former Serbian President “We lie to deceive ourselves, to console others; we lie for mercy, we lie to fight fear, to encourage ourselves, to hide our and somebody else’s misery. We lie for love and honesty. We lie because of freedom. Lying ie is the trait of our patriotism and the proof of our innate smartness. We lie creatively, imaginatively, inventively.” Six pivotal themes in Serbian propaganda are 1. Victimization, in which Serbs were constructed as collective victims first of the NDH, then of Tito’s Yugoslavia, and more specifically of Croats, Albanians, Bosnians, and other non-Serbs. 2. Dehumanization of designated ‘others’, in which Croats were depicted as ‘genocidal’ and as ‘Ustaše’, Bosnians were portrayed as ‘fanatical fundamentalists’, and Albanians were represented as not fully human. These processes of dehumanization effectively removed these designated ‘others’ from the moral field, sanctifying their murder or expulsion. 3. Belittlement, in which Serbia’s enemies were represented as beneath contempt. 4. Conspiracy, in which Croats, Slovenes, Albanians, the Vatican, Germany, Austria, and sometimes also the Bosnians as well as the U.S. and other foreign states, were seen as united in a conspiracy to break up the SFRY and hurt Serbia. In this way, the Belgrade regime’s obstinate disregard for the fundamental standards of international law was dressed up as heroic defiance of an anti-Serb conspiracy. 5. Entitlement, in which the Serbs were constructed as ‘entitled’ to create a Greater Serbian state to which parts of Croatia and Bosnia would be attached, under the motto,’ All Serbs should live in one state.’ 6. Superhuman powers and divine sanction. The Serbs were told that they were, in some sense, “super”. They were the best fighters on the planet, they could stand up to the entire world, and they were sanctioned by God himself, because of Tsar Lazar and the fact that Lazar had chosen the heavenly kingdom. Moreover, since Lazar had chosen the heavenly kingdom, the Serbs, encouraged to view themselves as Lazar’s heirs, were entitled to the earthly kingdom which Lazar had repudiated, as their patrimony. Serbian society began to stray down the path to war more or less unwittingly. Already in the years 1981—86, long before the other republics experienced anything like a ‘national awakening’, Serbia (and here one may include Kosovo too) was already sliding into a syndrome in which myths, threats, the allure of victory, and belligerent rhetoric filled the public discourse, giving Serbs a sense of common destiny but also separating them, psychologically, from the other peoples of socialist Yugoslavia. That this was an unhealthy state of collective mind is clear from the prominence of the themes of victimization, conspiracy, national entitlement, and divine sanction of the Serbian national project, as well as from the insistent campaigns of dehumanization, demonization, and belittlement of Croats, Bosnian Muslims, and Albanians, as well as other peoples and states, which began at this time. This syndrome, in an individual, would be considered psychotic; to the extent that it permeated much of Serbian society, perhaps especially in the countryside, one may speak of Serbia having been sucked into a kind of collective psychosis. And to the extent that Serbian war propaganda aimed at reinforcing and stimulating this state of mind, we may say that it aimed at inculcating and reinforcing neurotic and psychotic syndromes in Serbian society. This psychosis had its cultic saints – portraitsof Miloševiæ and Chetnik leader Draža Mihailoviæ were often displayed alongside those of saints canonized by the Church – had its bards (such as Simonida Stankoviæ and Ceca Ražnjatoviæ  , and even had its official music – “turbo-folk”, a pop mixtureof folk-ethnic style with a rhythmic pounding beat. Moreover, this psychosis could even transport those infected to a state of consciousness which they mistook for a better world. Miloševi, for example, arriving dramatically at Kosovo polje in a helicopter on 28 June 1989, told those gathered for the six hundredth anniversary of Serbia’s mythic confrontation with its national destiny, that in that the - century battle, Serbia had defended not just herself but all of European culture and civilization. Fine oratory might even be called the elixir of national psychosis. |
Adnan
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... IN GOD WE TRUST ونحن على ثقة في الله In the name of God, The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful. في بسم الله ، الرحمن الرحيم. Indeed all praise and thanks be to God, The Lord of all the worlds. والواقع ان كل الثناء والشكر الى الله ان تكون ، رب العالمين. May his Peace and Blessings be upon his final Messenger Muhammad (Sal Allahu Aleyh wa Salam) upon his family, loyal companions and all the believers who strive in his cause until the day of judgment. يجوز له ان يكون عليه الصلاة والسلام على رسول محمد تقريره النهائي (سأل الله aleyh سلام و ع على اسرته ، موالين والمرافقون من جميع المؤمنين في السعي قضيته الى يوم الدين. I bear witness there is no deity worthy of worship except God, and God alone with no partners ascribe unto him, and I bear witness that Muhammad (Sal Allahu Aleyi wa Salam) is his servant and final Messenger. وتشهد لي لا يوجد آلة يستحق العبادة إلا الله ، والله وحده لا مع الشركاء صقه ILA له ، وإنا نشهد أن محمد (سأل الله aleyi سلام و ع هو صاحب رسول خادم والنهائي. Peace be upon those who accept the guidance of Truth. والسلام على من يقبل بتوجيه من الحقيقة. The Republic of Kosova thanks all of you جمهورية كوسوفا شكرا لكم جميعا |
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Edin
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... The recognition of Kosovo will continue, sooner or later Kosovo will be a member of the UN. What’s important here is the question of, why hasn’t one, not one, of all the so called Serbian politicians who “represent” the new democratic era after the removal of the now dead Slobodan Milosevic, publicly apologized to the Albanian people for a century long rape, murder and plunder. Not one sign of regret, not one sign of understanding, not even a smallest sign of respect. “Cultural heritage” is something to be proud of, for every civilization, there is not one nation in the world today that has no other cultural heritage in its territory besides its own, so the Serbian claim of Kosovo because of its cultural and religious heritage is simply paralyzed. The oil, carbon and other natural minerals are the true reasons why Serbia won’t let Kosovo go. At least that is what the reality has shown us while I grow up in Prishtina and lost more then 40 family members during 1998-1999. There is no need to discuss who the aggressor was, since 98% of all Albanians prosecuted in Haag were innocent announced, while 92% of all Serbs have been convicted for 1 year or more. As far as religion is concerned, Kosovo has shown the best example of tolerance and how three monotheistic religions can live side by side for years and years, without killing one another. Albanian catholic churches in Kosovo are much older than the orthodox churches. As far as Greece is concerned, Greece is one the worst countries in Europe respecting the minority rights according to the report of the special commission for human rights. Approximately 500 000 Albanians live in the province of Macedonia around the city of Thessalonica and have no elementary school, while there are 20 000 Greeks living in the southern part of Albania and have the right to attend Greek schools and even let the Greek flag sway in the areas where the Greeks are a majority. Thank you Saudi Arabia, Selam Alejkum we rahmetullahi we beraketuhu! |
Tringa
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... To Greekobserver, It's funny how you think I have a nationalistic way of thinking, when I and everyone else posting in here, is giving you historical facts that are known to the World, and not what you read in Greek myths. I'm sorry, did you say comparing the completion and features of people in order to find out their origin, is racist? Then all scientists and archaeologists must be racist. When I said, " Europeans are Caucasian meaning they can have blonde hair, black hair, brown hair and red hair (Albanian people have such features) ... Find me one Greek with red hair heck even blonde or light brown hair? You cant. Greeks have a darker completion therefore suggesting STRONGLY that they migrated to Europe from Asia. And you'd like to think white Albanians are not prehistoric Europeans." No where did I mention that either or are a better race. It is FACTS that Greeks have a DARKER completion and therefore their Ancestral origin is not from Europe. Greeks migrated from Asia, that is why HISTORIANS who have studied history their whole life and intellectuals alike, know that Half of "Greek History" in the Balkans is False, because most of it is actually ILLYRIAN. |
Laura Bojkui
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... Demographics broken down in religion for Albanians in the Balkans: Albania Proper : 70% Muslim, 20% Orthodox, 5% Catholic, 5% atheist Kosovo ethnic Albanians : 94% Muslim, 5% Catholic, 1% Orthodox Macedonia ethnic Albanians : 98% Muslim, 2% Orthodox Montengro ethnic Albanians: 60% Muslim, 15% Orthodox, 25% Catholic |
bluerose799
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... It's about time to recognize the historical right of Kosova (Dardania) to have its destiny fulfilled-That is full independence. Kosova never was a Serbian province. It was there, since the times of birth of European civilization, a very distinct Dardanian/llyrian identity. Always populated by Dardanias who, although under constant pressure of forcefully migration by Serbian shovinism, Tito's Yugoslavia & Milloshevic's Serbia, still make up 92% of the population. They speak ilirian language with the dialect GEGE. Serbs always have been a minority there. We know that Serbs appeared in Balkans (then llyria) only by the 6th Century AD, and they speak a language more similar to Ukrainian then Russian. They have always been a minority and 'the story' of Kosova being the Heartland of Serbia is just a pure Serbian nationalist fantasy. Facts Speak Louder Than Words and Serbian’s Lies Will Collapse by Themselves. Serbs always have been considered as oppressors there, not just by Albanian majority, but also by other ethnic groups too. Serbs just occupied Kosova during the rise of the Serbian nationalism early 20th century from Ottomans, who by then were loosing the Balkans after 500 years of occupation. The borders of Kosova are well established and recognized. Now Kosova should be Free! http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/62/094.html I can’t comprehend how a minority of 7% of the population, pretend to take off the land, the language, culture and the life of the rest of Kosova. Kosovars have the right to live free and independent in their land where they are born, generation after generation, live and will die. http://www.gendercide.org/case_kosovo.html |
Mitroguy
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... To The FOOL well in that case i agree you know why because The Fool in the Middle Ages spoke nonsense just like you now only and only to make the King laugh like we are laughing with you now. But stil You remain fool. I gave a perfect answer to you jackass told you that you don't know a sh*t about the rights of the minorities in Kosova but again i don't have to deal with FOOLS why the h*ll do i bother you're done mate and you are comparinmg yourself to Dostoevsky and Friedrich Nietzsche. Tell me WHere are you from what nationallity and ill take you as an example of the good citizen ( FOOL ) for my people |
Mitroguy
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... To Greekobserver Give us a break plz you are the ones who stil live in the mythology old 3 thousand years, spoken fairy tales and stil you aint ancient but u bunch of homeless people occupators just like spanish. Mate you when are you going to stop adding your silly suffixes to each name of a famous personality. I bet you would find something for Mother Theresa too, yeah , of course , say that her name was Theresis or Therepulos, and give us what does that mean in greek, or Mandela probably a half greek, whats Mandelis in greek. cant you see that you are boring?? And your coments against Anastasia are silly, pal, YOU ARE THE ONES WHO SHOULD BLAME FOR BEING RACISTS NATIONALISTS TALKING ABOUT A NATION THAT YOU DON"T EVEN BELONG TO. YOU SHOULD PROTECT PERSIA THATS THE COUNTRY OF YOUR ORIGIN THATS WHERE YOU BELONG.(GIPSY-GAY) |
jeton
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... thanks again saudi arabia and to greekobserver just stop saying anything everyone has something that prooves your statment wrong just leave and illyrians are albanians |
the Fool
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... To Mitroguy: 1. You did not answer any of my questions with valid arguments. 2. Since you were more concerned with my nickname than my questions, I will explain: if you and people like you (using the same boring Albanian nationalistic propaganda) believe that what you write here is clever or true than I have to go as far away as I can from your hypocrisy and lies and call myself a fool. I do it for the same reason why Friedrich Nietzsche wrote a book called "The Antichrist" or why Dostoevsky wrote a book called "The Idiot". I was referring to the concept of the court fool (or jester) in the Middle ages. This is the definition I found on Wikipedia: "In societies where the Freedom of Speech was not recognized as a right, the court jester (fool) - precisely because anything he said was by definition "the uttering of a fool" - could speak frankly on controversial issues in a way in which anyone else would have been severely punished for." |
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... To The Fool I don't know whether i should give a coment to you or not cuz you were very smart to present yourself but not that smart in giving coment what can i say 'a contrast within' what the hell do you about the minorities in the Rep. of Kosova it isn't possible to go out with a friend and come back home without seeing at least two serbs walking and talking freely nobody cares what they are and my friend this is something that I an albanian can't do in the north part of my own town you fool MOVE B***H |
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Artan
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... Hello guys, I am wondering why are you debating with this guy "greekobserver" who seems to know nothing about history? He is trying to make himself "famous" while writting annoying comments. Why do you care what is he writting about? Just ignore him/her. It is a matter of time when all countries will recognize us, we are not in hurry. |
Tringa
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... Everybody in this post, I think we are in need of a ROUND OF APPLAUSE for Greekobserver as he contradicts himself in his post. GOOD JOB buddy. Read what he wrote: "Illyrians and Thracians were not Greeks but Greek-related tribes which were living North of Macedonia and North of Epirus (present North Albania. Dalmatia. South Croatia , Kosovo and Bulgaria)" aka. with this comment Greekobserve you just ACKNOWLEDGED in a big way that ILLYRIANS aka (Albanians) were in .."present North Albania. Dalmatia. South Croatia , Kosovo and Bulgaria" which was known as ILLYRIA before the Serbs had ever showed up. He even mentioned Kosovo being Illyrian, hmmm even he knows the truth but people hate stating the truth when it doesn't benefit them. Like Serbs fact number one, who claim Illyrians were never in Kosovo until the 1900's. THEN after admitting that Albanians were in Kosovo as well as every other surrounding land around it, he goes to say: "That proves we Greeks are direct descendents of Ancient Macedonians, Epirotes, Athenians, Thebans and Spartans .I do not care for Albanian language which has no relation to ancient Illyrian which is still unknown to us.. The truth about Illyrian and Thracians is that they were assimilated by Slavs and formed the Modern nations of Serbs and Bulgarians. The truth about Albanians is that they came as slaves from Caucasus around 8oo AC by Byzantines. The true homeland of Albanians is Caucasus .go back there….. " Greekobserver, Who are you kidding? PLEASE before you post ANYTHING think it over for a second, process it in your brain before clicking the "Add Comment" button. It is time to read literature that 90% of the World reads. It is funny how you contradict yourself, which proves that everything you are saying is FALSE. You know what's funny? Europeans are Caucasian meaning they can have blonde hair, black hair, brown hair and red hair (Albanian people have such features) ... Find me one Greek with red hair heck even blonde or light brown hair? You cant. Greeks have a darker completion therefore suggesting STRONGLY that they migrated to Europe from Asia. And you'd like to think white Albanians are not prehistoric Europeans. GIVE ME A BREAK. Oh by the way, thank you for not replying to my last posts, I guess those were hard to fabricate answers to. |
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Anastasia
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... To GreekObserver To your disappointment ,the ancient language of Ancient Macedonians is Ancient Greek, so comments like” hey Alexander the Great was Macedonian not Greek” are ridiculous. . Some people need history lesson. Sorry to disappoint you my neighbor Greek, but Alexander was schooled by Alristotel was was a Greek, and Greek at the time was just like English is today. To say that Alexander was greek cause he spoke greek, is the same as Greeks today say that everyone that is orthodox and has orthodox names is greek. Hmmm such a greek mentality. Sorry even Hollywood did not go fro greek lies, they did not portray Alexander as greek. So I think you need some history lessons. As for the DNA, Albanians are the closest DNA to the ancient people of Balkans, maybe you should do some studies and research on that, or do you want me to bring that here as well. |
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... To Greek Observer, Too bad that the ancient language of Illyrians is lost so we can not say for sure what the true origin of Albanians is…. Let’s see if I can teach you something and make you more educated toward the Albanian language. a. The Pelasgian hypothesis. Albanian is the continuation of the language of an ancient people called Pelasgians, a hypothesis rather diffused in the 19th century. J.G. von HAHN (1854) formulated in a strict manner the hypothesis that the Albanians are direct descendants of the Illyrians, Macedonians, and Epirotes, and that in the remotest times they formed a united race together with the Latins and the Hellenes called Pelasgians, with their language, the Pelasgian. A. SCHLEICHER gave full authority to this theory of Pelasgian origin with his family tree of languages. Today this is considered a groundless idea. b. The Thracian (Dacian) hypothesis. Albanian is the continuation of the Thracian language. This thesis, implying an Albanian-Rumanian symbiosis, is supported by students of Rumanian: H. HIRT, K. PAUL, G. WEIGAND, H. BARIC, I. POPOVIC, and I. I. RUSSU. Only scant remains of Thracian exist, but HIRT saw Albanians as descendants of the Thracians. This means that in the early Middle Ages the Albanians moved westward from the central part of the Balkans, but there are no historical records of such a massive migration. To BARIC Albanian is an Illyricized Thracian dialect. c. The Illyrian-Thracian hypothesis. Albanian is derived from a mixture of Illyrian and Thracian. N. JOKL supported the idea of an intermediate position between Illyrian and Thracian. However, Thracian is not better known than Illyrian, and it is difficult to distinguish their specific elements, or to trace a dividing line between Illyrian and Thracian. For JOKL the Albanians are probably the descendants of the Illyrian tribe of Dardanians, living in the interior of the Balkan peninsula, who migrated westward some time in the late Roman period. d. The Daco-Moesian hypothesis is sustained by the Bulgarian academician V. GEORGIEV. e. The independent hypothesis. H. KRAHE affirms that Albanian presents an independent Indo-European language. The vast work of Prof. E. ÇABEJ on Albanian etymology (1976), an unrivaled synthesis of everything known in this field, refers to remote periods of Albanian as an Indo-European language, without considering the Illyrian language. Following a strict method, the Albanian etymologies would go back to Illyrian forms, which in turn would be traced back to Indo-European roots, like the Italian etymologies going back to Latin forms. E. HAMP (1972) states: “Albanian shows no obvious close affinity to any other Indo-European language; it is plainly the sole modern survivor of its own subgroup”. The whole question of origin is closely connected to the question of the area where the Albanian was formed, and of the place where its transformation ocurred. It is not by chance that the Illyrian origin of Albanian was suggested on a historical base by H.E. THUNMANN in 1774. Archeological finds of our days substantiate the theory of the autochthony of the Albanians, and the supporters of the Illyrian origin theory comprise many historians. The continuity of the same material culture on the same territory is a proven fact, but the linguistic argumentation is not very substantial. The Illyrian language is only known from certain words reported by ancient writers, from a few rare inscriptions and, to a gretaer extent, from surviving names of persons and places. Despite remarkable studies by H. KRAHE, A. RIBEZZO, A. MAYER, and others, the question of the place that the Illyrian occupies in the Indo-European family is still debatable. Most German, Austrian and Italian historians and linguists, such as: G. MEYER, The Albanian language takes a very special position among IE languages. Its position enjoys the privileges of a PIE language and could be used in many scientific jobs to avoid nonsense like this: PIE *leu-dheros .Another interesting thing is the development of two main independent dialects in the language. Gheg is a possible source of tosk but all indications are that this last one was split from the proto-IE itself before the other major Europian languages being split, meanwhile the gheg conserved all the characteristics of the PIE. It means that Gheg is older than Tosk but both are dialects of one unique language : the Albanian language. They represent gheg and tosk clans which in antiquity were called respectively: Illyrians and Epiriotes both the variations of the prehistoric race : the Albanians. |
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... To GreekObserver It is true that Dardani are one of the many Illyrian tribes that used to reside in the Balkan area about 500 BC. Finally you know something One theory says that Albanians are descendents of these tribes. But an other theory says that Albanians actually came to Balkan Peninsula around 800 AC from Caucasus brought by Byzantine Emperor to fight Slavs, as mercenaries. That means that Albanians were actually of Kzazar origin (Mongolic). Haha, which theory yours and those that wish so. Check out the Albanian language which is the closest to the Illyrian, and check out the alphabet of the Albanians in south Georgia. If Albanians of Balkans have anything to do with the Albanians of Mongolia, how come these people preserved better the Illyrian language, ancient traditions and customs, better than the Illyrians that were in the Balkans themselves. Caucasian Albanians must not to be confused with the Illyrian Albanians of modern-day Albania in the Balkans. The Caucasian Albanian name could be the remnant of the Macedonian expansion towards Asia. Alexander the Great had recruited Illyrian soldiers for his campaign against Persia and later India. The Albanoi tribe of Ilyrian was mentioned by Ptolemey in the 2nd Century, so how can these Albanians come from coucasus in 800 AC. Albanoi tribe was one of the strongest Illyrian tribe which withstand the Slavic assimilation. To continue |
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... To Greek Observer...I am sorry, but you hardly read any history. Do you know that Arthur Evans, the father of archeology, he spent all his life studying ancient greek, acknowledges one important thing that Albanians are direct descendants of Illyrians. Or perhaps, read some of Greek historians of the early 20th century. They acknowledge it as well. 99% of the world does acknowledge it. You want to make this political, go ahead. But, Alexander the Great was not greek. He did not speak Greek. Since you have your own theories, I got mine as well. Alexander is a legend born as in dream....derives directly from the Albanian language...A le ksi ander....A=was le=born, ksi=as; ander= dream.........learn some albanian language and come back to me with your theories that hold no water... |
the FOOL
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... To Anastasia: When you said that you will take all the territories "where Albanian people live and continue to speak their languages" did you mean that soon you will demand a part of Greece, a part (half) of FYR Macedonia, part of south Serbia, part of Montenegro? Please tell us so that we can prepare for future peace-keeping operations in those areas. Do you also believe that other nations have the same right? Should maybe Serbs ask for all territories where Serbian people live? Or maybe Roma people who live all over south-east Europe should ask to get their country finally? Why do you always talk about Albanian rights and Albanian claims and deny the same thing to any other ethnicity? I dont understand you guys and I dont think you're playing it fair. |
GreekObserver
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... It is true that Dardani are one of the many Illyrian tribes that used to reside in the Balkan area about 500 BC. One theory says that Albanians are descendents of these tribes. But an other theory says that Albanians actually came to Balkan Peninsula around 800 AC from Caucasus brought by Byzantine Emperor to fight Slavs, as mercenaries. That means that Albanians were actually of Kzazar origin (Mongolic).Too bad that the ancient language of Illyrians is lost so we can not say for sure what the true origin of Albanians is…. To your disappointment ,the ancient language of Ancient Macedonians is Ancient Greek, so comments like” hey Alexander the Great was Macedonian not Greek” are ridiculous. . Some people need history lesson. The most ridiculous thing that I have read it that Greeks are Slavs that have adopted Greek language!! So in this logic we have people of FORMER YUGOSLAVIC REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA to be descendents of Ancient Greek Macedonians but to have adopted SLAVIC LANGUAGE (close to Bulgarian) and people of GREECE to be descendents of Slavs but to have adopt Greek language. So a good idea is Greeks and people of F.Y.R.O.M. to exchange languages so that to make stupid people happy! To say that Greeks are descendents of Alexander the Great and Ancient Macedonians is myth and to say that Albanians are descendents of Illyrians is not myth Anastasia? Nice logic of double standards. So Albanians have their own myth that they are Illyrians (Ancient Illyrian language has been lost) and that were living form 500 BC and accuse others of having myths. |
Dardanian
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... @ Be Smart, It's impossible to achieve that dream of yours before Islamic countries recognize us first. |
be smart
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... Islamic nations should recognise Kosovo's independence only when Nato and EU is out of Kosovo. Right now Nato and EU are occupators of islamic nations like Iraq and Afganistan. |
Anastasia
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... To The Fool, No need for us to write letters, I guess it seems fitting for all the lands taken away from Albania where Albanian people live and continue to speak their languages and follow their tradition to come back to the right setting they use to be. Unfortunately we cannot claim all Illyria, as I pointed out most of them were assimilated, but the ones that still continue to hold their culture, no need fro them to be in their own land, under other governments they have nothing in common with. I hope you are quick to get the point. |
the FOOL
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... I suppose you guys now want to get back all the territories you were occupying in the prehistoric period. I think you should write a letter about your intentions to the Security Council. I am sure they would have understanding  )))) |
Anastasia
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... To Alexander, Actually serbs real ancestry comes from Iran, this is a known fact, they later moved to Russia. Illyrian (Albanians) are the authoctone people of Balkans from the prehistoric time. Just a hint to the people that ask all the time why we have changed the name. We haven't actually, Albanoi was the strongest and the most powerful in the Illyrian kingdom. Albanoi center was located in today's Tirana city. As the most of the Illyrian population began to be slavonized, the Albanoi tribe was one that withstand that assimilation. And that is why what ever was left from the Illyrian kingdom identified themselves with the tribe that still kept alive the Illyrian language, traditions, customs, etc. To people that have not read real history, try it, you may be surprised how wider horizon of thinking you will have. |
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... Kosovo is Dardania, Dardania is Albanian, Albanians are Illyrians. Albanians have always lived in the balkans, Serbs have occupied the Balkans in 6. century AD. One more thing, Alexander the Great WAS Illyrian just like Constantin was as the Byzantine Roman Emperor. The Albanians are an important part of European history and culture. Serbs aren't even European, they're Ruskies! |
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... To Greekobserver, One thing I forgot to mention, was the relationship between Canada and Quebec. I live in Canada and the Quebec situation has nothing to do with Canada recognizing Kosova as an independent and free country. Many Serbs live in Canada, and unfortunately when Kosova was declared independent, those Serbs started spreading Propaganda around Canada almost immediately the day after. They protested in front of Parliament Hill every day and were on the news non-stop lying stating ridiculous issues (much like you are at the moment). This Serbian propaganda spread here like crazy, it got so bad that our Prime Minister Stephen Harper, went on the news live and said himself "stop spreading the hate" basically telling Serbian people in Canada to SHUT UP - this is not Serbia, Propaganda does not flow here. Let me assure you that when Quebec wanted to become Independent, they had 2 referendums, both resulted into Quebec staying with Canada. When Kosova requested a referendum from the Serbian government they were turned down (which is illegal). So despite all the effort that Serbs made, Canada still recognized Kosova as a free and Independent state. |
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... To Greek Observer: You really don't know Quebec's relationship with Canada. |
Anastasia
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... To GreekObserver ughhh, since when is Alexander the Great greek. Philip the II kicked greeks asses, so did Alexander himself. Let's not start with fake history little boy, or you will leave embarrassed for even mentioning some of the names that have been adopted by Greece and are being reexamined again as the truth is coming out. What do you think that people will read only the myths written by you. If you are educated as I hope you are, you should know better that today more than ever knowledge is is the tip of your fingertips. Sorry to disappoint you but people do not live anymore in the dark ages. |
Anastasia
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... To GreekObserver, If you want stability than why in the world are you trying to stir problems. I think the sooner Kosova gets recognized by as many countries the better, so things can be better understood by all sides, and not give serbs false hopes about Kosova being theirs in the future, which it ain't ever happening. The sooner this things get sorted the better for everyone in Balkans, even for Serbs themselves so they don't think otherwise. So with that said do not come here and do propaganda against Albanians thinking that you are better. |
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... To Greekobserver, WOW! let me tell you, you are very predictable. I knew you were going to write something along the lines of "Albanians are criminals". Ok let me see now so far... Albanians are jihads, criminals, terrorists, killers, thieves, engage in the blackmarket, human traffickers... the list goes on. hmmm seems like you read the so called "Russia Today" news. Obviously you have that image of Albanians in your head because it is propaganda news like that, which made Serbians in the first place to dehumanize Albanians and make them seem as less than human. I'm sorry it is not a perfect world Greekobserver, and yes every country has thiefs, criminals... etc. You cannot stop that. Find me one country on Earth which does not have people such as these? Even your beloved Greece and Serbia has people who engage in illegal activity. With that said, it does not mean ALL Albanains in engage in such trades, and if you think that is true than you need to look at reality, and stop letting the media control your thoughts. Kosova had its own autonomy within Yugoslavia. (good job Sherlock!!) What you fail to mention is how that autonomy was stripped like a grape vine. I don't know what your definition of "autonomy" is, but it definitely does not include oppression of people, not being able to speak their language, not being able to attend get an education, not being able to have the same rights as others and lastly but most importantly being massacred. Is that the autonomy you are speaking of? Also, do you know what the word "UNIQUE" means? because it just doesn't seem like its processing in your brain. You cannot compare the situation of Kosova with any other peoples because it is not the same. Kosova was DARDANIA (Dardanians - Albanians). After centuries of rule, it was free floating so it was incorporated within Yugoslavia. As a FREE COMMUNITY. But since Serbia was the "big brother" in the so called brotherhood of Yugoslavia it took over and interrogated Serbs in the area and took over successfully. Serbs like to say "liberated" but as ANY historian could tell you it was more like "occupied". And please dont post back by saying Albanians are not Illyrian or Dardanian because I have just one thing to say: Look at UNDP (United Nations Development Fund) in those document it states that Albanians are direct descendents of Illyrians based on proof found in Kosova, Albania and Macedonia. And this document was signed by each UN member therefore it makes it even more of a REALITY. So you see, Albanians were always in the Balkans since 1000BC while your Serb brothers migrated from the CARPATHIANS in 6AD. As for the exaggerations of ethnic cleansing people in Kosova, denying that is like denying the Holocaust ever happened. Are you one of those people who said that in Bosnia there was only 100 people massacred, how ridiculous could you be? In Kosova there are over 3000 people STILL missing, and yet Serbs like to think that merely 3000 were ethnic cleansed. HELLO!! there are 3000 missing, on top of the hundred thousands of Albanians that were ethnic cleansed. Sorry for the long post but I had a lot to say. TO ALEX, Your comment is priceless hahaha!! Its not that Im not giving him room to breathe but he simply keeps repeating what he hears in Russian and Serbian news, time to look outside the box Greekobserver. |
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... To Greekobserver HAHAHA dont tell me that EU doesnt control your police and NATO doesnt control your army plz how slow could you be to understand at last that the only country that has full control of their own police and army that is USA. Wake up in that point of view no other state is independent to be convinced take a trip to Selanik and look what flags are raised in the military bases there. |
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... To Greekobserver Firstly as the historical backround matters Kosova is Ancient Dardania ( Illyria ) and kosovars are Dardans, secondly present greeks are nothing else but Slavic people same as serbs, occupators in the Peninsula that came from a place where even your blood on the vains would freez serbs are occupators of the Central Peninsula whereas you are occupators of the Ancient Greece only that instead of using you own slavic language you adopted ancient greek language and their background, thirdly Alexander the Great was never a Greek he was Macedonian. And when we say something about human rights we should firstly consider that Kosova had its autonomy which serbs failed to respect as long as a place remains under one government the autonomy can not be granted because the government can change the constitution whenever they want to. Gorans in Kosova are not muslim serbs but they are Gorans always were and always will remain. Anyway thnx for your concerne about Kosova;s prosperity but why dont you try to solve the problem of natality in Greece cuz as long as i know you are a nation going towards disappearance and for less then 5 decades the number of your citizens will be less than the number of gorans in Kosova |
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... To Greekobserver, Thank you for appreciating my enthusiasm, but what you fail to appreciate is my knowledge in International and human rights laws. Your comment simply does not live up to anything, because the case of Kosova is unique. The new Kosovar government is based on rights and values for ALL people, unlike the serbian government which its main goal was to interrogate other cultures and nations into a Serbian society, by using violence to the most brutal degree (ethnic cleansing, massacres.. etc). As for Kosova being a false state, its acceptance makes up 70% of the Worlds strongest economical countries, and the list just keeps on growing. You claim Kosova is a false state because it broke international law (being UN Resolution 1244): Guess what? Ethnic cleansing hundred thousands of Albanians is a PERFECTLY good reason to break UN Resolution 1244, as we all know a law is based on rights for all people, as Resolution 1244 did not give the right to the Serbian government to ethnic cleans Albanians. Therefore making Resolution 1244 non-existent in the Kosova case. |
Anastasia
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... Greekobserver, how come you are so much more in pain here for Kosova's recognition. I am an orthodox Albanian, and as you know we Albanians, unlike you greeks and serbs, don't identify ourselves with religion. Why don't you worry about your country and let us worry about ours, and all the lands that are coming back to where they belonged. So buzz off with your analyzing of this issue which it does not concern you what so ever. Saudi Arabia thank you for supporting us for the rights and freedom of people that want peace in their own land. |
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... To greekobserver: One thing you forget to mention that Kosovo was recognized on sui generis basis. Unique. By questioning this uniqueness, you are questioning the integrity of your territory, thus placing a precedent in your own backyard. The more you deny the Independence of Kosovo, the deeper grave hole you are digging out. The word's democracies, 98% of them have recognized Kosovo based on sui generis rule. What is the other rule you are rooting for, it only enforces the destruction of your country's sovereignty. There is no going back from Independence. Kosovo is a sovreign country. Its territorial sovregnity is known by every world body. Even the UN acknowledges one important fact on its latest review on Kosovo: "Kosovo has declared Independence". And it is recognized by the 95.4 of UN sponsors whom pay all the bills of the UN. Greece can side with everyone they want to. As I recall it, Greece's long term project is expanding its investments in the Balkans. But, Greece fails to mention one important fact that Kosovo is the future hub of the Balkan economy. Greece cannot invest in Serbia, a country that threatens the security of Europe, neither align itself in the same position. You are speaking as a citizen of Greece, but not on behalf of Greece. Today, no one can deny the Independence of Kosovo. Kosovo is an independent and sovereign republic as much as Greece. If you question Kosovo, you are indeed, questioning the sovereignty of Greece. Life does not evolve around myths and history. Life evolves as people make decisions for their future. Do you have a future? |
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... sooner or later, all of them will. I wonder when iran is going to recognize it. an independent country is an independent country, no one can deny it. make sure that no one will stop you from getting what you deserve. Perham, Iran. |
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... To Tringa I understand totally your enthousiasm about this issue but also this enthousiasm prevents you from seeing things objectively.In Greece we have analysed the circumstances and we support Serbia because we are not convinced that Kosovo status can be solved by unillateral moves.About Statehood,States do not need international help to reassure prosperity for their citisens.False states need.Who controls electricity and oil in Kosovo?Serbia!Who controls police and Army in Kosovo?NATO and EU!I do not know any other state with this circumstances.Kosovo is unstable and cannot provide good quality of life for his citisens.For North Kosovo,you know that Serbia has expanded juristiction to Kosovar Serbs.The latter will never accept a "kosovar" government. |
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... To greekobserver, your comments are so ignorant that I do not even know where to start to dismantle them. First of all, what did you expect? Kosova is around 50 days old, and you expect a country to be up on its feet without international help. That is ridiculous and impossible at the same time. The UN and EU presence in the region is very much encouraged as any educated person can tell you. The present state of Kosova is stable and will remain stable in the future and that's exactly why EU and NATO need to be there, however, write back in 5 years (no more than that) and I believe Kosova will run on its own with its own authorities and government. As for your claims about Kosova being a false state, all I have to say when Independence is declared once there is no turning back and that does include the northern part of Kosova too. In case you did not see the Kosovar flag, the map of Kosova is on it - you know why the UN did that?? It was because it showed the clear borders of Kosova - as it will not partition. Oh wait - maybe we can change our flag and adjust the little map on it perhaps giving the northern part to Serbia, and while were at it lets just tell all those countries that have recognized it and the countries that are in the process of recognizing a free Kosova that they unfortunetly wasted their time and Kosova will go back to being what it was - under the rule of Barbarians. Also lets close the embassies that have already been opened in Kosova, and tell those countries that they are in a false state - better yet lets go back in time to February 17th and never let it happen. Guess what my friend, what's done is done is done. period. Anything you do, say, or even scream out cannot be accounted for because the World knows laws and rules of HUMANITY and FREEDOM better than you and me. If anything there is another article on here posted just yesterday stating "Serbia is the only obstacle that does not allow peace in Kosovo” said by UN administration. And that is absolutely right. If the minority of Serbs in Kosova which is less than 5% try to negotiate with their Kosovar government, Belgrade threatens them by calling them hypocrites and even with death. So you tell me, who and what is wrong in Kosova? Also for Alex, THANK YOU, I would gladly be an Ambassador of Kosova, only if they don't send me to Serbia though, in case case they run another attack on embassies than I'd be scared for my safety and the Kosovar embassy!! |
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... i would like to ask all those so called muslims where where they when we albanians were been slaughtered by kufaars. not they still love kuraars more then us, shame on you Fathma to call yousels muslims to me much better muslim is america who protected muslims people in kosova and save lifes and now halp us to creat a country of our own. but i dont blame islam, islami is my religion but muslims in the name of religion put thier backward vulture tryig to own islam. no my culture is european and my religion is islam. |
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... to Jeton: I do understand you but i was very disappointed when one time i read on newspaper that 2 girls were denied to enter the school just because they were wearing hijab. I do support you on your recongition because you have suffered from serbs and every country deserves to be free and independent. I know that there may be very good muslims within your community but i feel that the higher people (govt. people) have no faith and don't give the rights to muslim girls that want to practise islam the way they are supposed to. Kosovo will eventually get recognised by all the countries Inshaallahhhh and I would love to come and visit the free Kosovo. Prokshi I am not a serb and would never want to be one of them..... |
Mitroguy
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... The Newborn country is an absolut example of high tolerance and wellfunctioning of democracy for everybody, a place where every human being regardless of nation, religion, or political view. Saudi Arabia, USA, EU, are such examples and arabian people already know it thats why The King Abdullah supports the independence of Kosova. KOSOVARS THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE HEART. |
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... To Tringa We should send you to Serbia as our (Albanian) Ambasador lol That is so true "they simply gave it back to the people it belonged to - the Albanians". THANK YOU TRINGAAAA |
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... i thank saudi arabia for recognizing the republic of kosova. And fathma i know some people calll them selves muslim and they dont wear the hijab and act like good muslims. but walk around the city im from called ferizaj and in the city side (very small) and youll find 2 mosques in about 2 minute walk away because there is to many people that go there and those are not the only ones, by my house in the same city there is another and about 2 or 3 more a bit farther from me. even if some ladies dont wear the hijab and call there selves muslim doesnt mea you have the say theyre bad people.allah says if you dont want to wear it you shouldnt be forced into wearind it. i know it is better but if they dont want to they dont. my mom wears the hijab and im memorizing the holy quran and im from kosova, so are you saying im not a muslim.thats were your wrong because there is always bad people in a good society. once again thank you saudi arabia for recognizing the republic of kosova. we have suffereds to long in bloody wars against serbs i hope all the 56 muslim countries recognize kosova soon and i think your right tringa because saudi arabia is the strongest muslim country in the islamic conference |
Tringa
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... Actually the Republic of kosova has a Secular government just like the US or Canada.. etc. This means there is a clear devision between government and religion. It is the similar approach of many countries in the world. Kosovars have many different religions but they are more profoundly known to associate themselves with their ethnicity rather than religion. If you ask an Albanian what they are, they mor elikeyl would say I am Albanian before they would say Im Christian or Muslim. This fact however has nothing to do with Saudi Arabia recognizing Kosova because they are not looking to recognize it based on relgious views, they simply recognize that Kosova's independence is a human right. As for natinallistic Serbs posting on here, they are just spreading hate and propaganda because they do realize that if Saudia Arabia recognizes Kosova that means all of the Islamic Conference will too - around 56 members. That is more than 50 countries added to the list of the pro-independent Kosova. Which gets it one step closer to reaching the goal of 103. Now that is what scares the Serbian people, they are coming to the realisation that they have never lost Kosova because it was never theirs - they simply gave it back to the people it belonged to - the Albanians. |
Gent Prokshi
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... To Greek Observer, Kosovo is a real republic as much as Greece is, in case you forgotten. Are you questiong the republic of Greece? Because, as far I am concerned all your trade partners have recognized it and considered as an independent republic with the same statehood status as Greece. Just remember, all Arab Nations will recognize it. To Fathma, sorry, do you mean embrace the culture? because what you said sounds more like a cultural remark rather than religious, thus, I could easily assume you're not even Muslim. hahahah..serbs..........lol.... Albanians will strongly preserve their European identity no matter of the religious background. Sorry, but it was Albania that was declared an atheist country, not Republic of Kosovo. |
GreekObserver
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... Kosovo is not a real republic..it is a NATO-UN protectorate.Many countries see that..so they do not recognise..The sympathy of muslim countiries cannot be gained because Kosovo and Albania are not islamic republics..they have secural policies and non-relegious way of life.Only american sponsored Muslims like Afganistan and the Saudis will recognise..not other muslms |
fathma
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... I don't understand this, why do you people thank the arab world for recognizing the muslim country..... Kosovo was declared Atheist country and that covered muslim girls are not even allowed to go to school because of the people that don't beileve in Allah S.W.T. If you are calling your self a muslim then you have to be a real muslim like us....... |
Mitroguy
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... Special thanks to Saudi Arabia for the King Abdullah's statement about Kosova. We also hope that the above mentioned statement will influence in other muslim countries and non-muslim Asian countries as well for the recognition of Kosova. |
Shaban
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... More islamic country must very quickly recognize the Kosova State, I want the Saudi Kingdom to lead and to talk with another islamic countries to do that,so quickly is better. |
KingKosova
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... It's a great thing by King Abdullah to promise kosovar's for the new country recongnizing every country that accept's it know's the turth about Kosova and will do a good thing about it. Serbia is a terror country Eu know's that we have another russia in Eu but we will take care of it. |
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... To Mark Why you even bother to talk about something you've got no clue. WHEN did Albanians ever done any TERROR? It seems that all of you serbs are brainwashed so badly and still believe your own lies. Why don't you mind your own business, we do not need no Arabians to support us or recognize us we've got USA and in all reality we don't need much of anything any longer, we've got everything we'll ever need we'll have much better life than you in Serbia that's for sure, you and your Serbs will never get over your loss because you are still shocked at the fact that Kosova "Serbias Heart" will NEVER have anything to do with Serbia, therefore you will need a transplant go to Russia and see they may have an extra heart for your Dead Serbia. Wake up Serbs it's over and the fat lady is singing and singing in Albanian lol you wish you were Albanian and had USA's support. |
Gent Prokshi
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... At Mark, Lol, what's your explanation to this one: Jeremic's statement in Jararta Indonesia " Kosovo is not a religious conflict, but an ethnic one"..... Or perhaps his speech in Damascus, Syria, reiterating the same exact aforementioned statement while promising a lucrative supply with weapons worth of billion dollars! Mark, you are out of reality. And, the reality is this, all Arab nations will recognize it, sooner or later. Mark, obviously, your grassroots stem from the Final Solution to Annihilate all Kosovars initiated by your infamous academicians and leaders such as Cubrilovic, Pasic, Andric, Rankovic, Cosic, Milosevic, Seselj, Kostunica, Nicolic, Tadic and others. Your comment is a typical example of a continuous lying propaganda filled with murderous projects solely quilled to exterminate all Kosovar citizens. Have you forgotten why Kosovo is an independent and sovereign country? A denazification of your Serbian society is a must before you should be allowed to enter any European organization. |
magoichisaika
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... RE:Mark They sure are! You got the USA under control of the terrorist Zionist machine Israel, and Russia and Serbia, those notorious Muslim killers are getting closer than ever! All the terrorist countries are gathering in groups! Maybe there will be a great big terrorist party! |
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... Thanks to King Abdullah. And you, the New Kosova Report, please pay some more attention to your articles. The Islamic Conference may have 56 members but not AROUND 56 countires. |
elbasan
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... thank you very much SAUDI ARABIA .... i hope that more islam states recognize kosova ... thank you very much |
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