Residents of Karaceva and other Dardana villages which are located close to Kosovo's eastern border with Serbia are worried as the Serbian gendarmerie often crosses the border into Kosovo territory. For this reason, the residents of Karaceva protested peacefully to alert the public.
KFOR silently patrols a line further inland based on maps provided to
it by the Yugoslav Army in the Kumanovo Agreement, which set the
conditions for the withdrawal of Serb forces from Kosovo and established
a land and air buffer zone around Kosovo borders with Serbia. Since
then the land buffer zone has been removed allowing Serb forces to
approach Kosovo borders and patrol into Kosovo territory.
Karaceva residents whose lands would be on the other side of an international border said that they are not going to give their land to anyone. “Not even a millimeter of the land will be seceded. We will use all the peaceful means…we will ask all institutions, local and international, for help, but we will not allow that to happen,” said Selver Lenjani, representative of Karaceva.
“There has never been a borderline here. I am 76 years old, my father was 82 when he died and we have always kept in touch with the elderly. There has never been a borderline here. In other words, there cannot be a borderline here. Either we will have to move out of here…both Karaceva villages, or the border will stay like it was before,” said Nazif Buxhuku, resident.
“How can you give somebody else’s property to someone else without the owner’s presence? How? I do not know how,” said Fejzullah Jonuzi, a resident.
The insecurity of the residents who live close to the borderline is also a concern for residents who live farther from the borderline. “If the residents of Upper Karaceva and Lower Karaceva leave, the borderline will come to Rogana, and we will all have to move,” said Sejdi Rrudhani, resident of the village of Rogana.
The border area residents hope that the Kosovo institutions will defend the villages located close to the border.
Karaceva residents whose lands would be on the other side of an international border said that they are not going to give their land to anyone. “Not even a millimeter of the land will be seceded. We will use all the peaceful means…we will ask all institutions, local and international, for help, but we will not allow that to happen,” said Selver Lenjani, representative of Karaceva.
“There has never been a borderline here. I am 76 years old, my father was 82 when he died and we have always kept in touch with the elderly. There has never been a borderline here. In other words, there cannot be a borderline here. Either we will have to move out of here…both Karaceva villages, or the border will stay like it was before,” said Nazif Buxhuku, resident.
“How can you give somebody else’s property to someone else without the owner’s presence? How? I do not know how,” said Fejzullah Jonuzi, a resident.
The insecurity of the residents who live close to the borderline is also a concern for residents who live farther from the borderline. “If the residents of Upper Karaceva and Lower Karaceva leave, the borderline will come to Rogana, and we will all have to move,” said Sejdi Rrudhani, resident of the village of Rogana.
The border area residents hope that the Kosovo institutions will defend the villages located close to the border.
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bluerose799
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... @PEGGY "The only thing I can say is to remind you of the words of Primo Levi written on a wall in Dachau. "The man who denies Auschwitz is the same one who is ready to repeat it." |
Peggy
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... Bluerose, Blah, blah, blah. You can go on and on but just because you write a book here doesn't make it fact. It's fiction and you know it. I won't waste my time with you any longer. It certainly doesn't matter what any of us think the world will go on. One good thing though, history books are not written by the likes of you. |
bluerose799
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... @PEGGY http://www.neo-tech.com/global/appendix3.html Spotting and Dumping the Criminal Mind "...Consider Dostoevsky's analysis of the criminal mind in his masterwork `Crime and Punishment': The criminal assumption is that one has the right and authority to take or confiscate values earned by others so long as someone else has a need for those values." The Criminal Mind is a mode of thinking that lays the responsibility for taking care of oneself onto others. A person with a criminal mind constantly projects that others owe him something -- be it money, a job, happiness, love, or anything else of value. You, and your fellow Serbs pretend that you didn’t do anything wrong: You didn’t humiliated nobody, you didn’t steal nobody, you didn’t tortured nobody, you didn’t raped nobody, you didn’t kill nobody, you didn’t stab nobody, you didn’t shoot nobody, you didn’t kidnapped nobody, you didn’t took the home of nobody you didn’t took the property of nobody, you didn’t took the land of nobody …. This is the way a Criminal Mind can think. Even the worse criminal tries to justify his self before committing the crime. The same way you are thinking too. And if the victim react to protect his self in self defense and hurts you, then you label your prey or victim as an aggressor. What really happen to Croatia? Along with Slovenia, Croatia declared its independence from Yugoslavia on June 25, 1991, which triggered the Croatian War of Independence. The Serb population living in border areas of Croatia revolted, supported by the Yugoslav army, and the ensuing months saw combat between various Croatian and Serbian armed forces. During this stage of the war, the independence of Croatia was recognized by the international community, while the Serbs proclaimed their own state, the Republic of Serbian Krajina. The Yugoslav army, controlled by Serbia, armed local Serbs turning them from “innocent civilians” to paramilitary forces. With the direct support of the Yugoslav army these Serb paramilitary forces committed unspeakable crimes against local Croats innocent civilians and put them in the ran By 1992, troops were entrenched, and so called Republic of Krajina was cleansed from the Croat population, resulting in hundreds of thousands Croat refugees that were displaced and moved to the Croatian side, and more than 20000 dead. The war ended in 1995, when the Croatian Army successfully launched two major offensives to retake the rebel areas by force, leading to a mass displacement of the hundreds of thousands local Serbs from those areas into Serbia and Republika Srpska. Those local Serbs had completed the metamorphosis from innocent civilians, to paramilitary forces and to professional criminals and terrorist. A peaceful reintegration of the remaining Serbian-controlled territory in the eastern part of the country was completed in 1998 under UN supervision, and 130000 from 250000 displaced Serbs reportedly have returned. Continued |
bluerose799
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... The fact that the Serbian demands for new frontiers were purely unilateral and totally unjustified is shown by the Serbian attitude to non-Serbs in Serbia itself. Serbia raised the so-called issue of Serbs in Croatia, although Croatia, with 78% of Croats was, except for Slovenia, the republic with the most homogeneous population. It is a degree of homogeneity by no means exceptional by European standards. Serbia, on the other hand, with a proportion of about 65% Serbs, is less homogeneous than Croatia. The territorial integrity of Serbia, however, could not be called in question - in the Serbian view - because the principle of self-determination does not apply to Albanians, Hungarians and Bulgarians living in Serbia. The minorities question was stated to be a purely "internal" issue, although non-Serbian communities form huge majorities in areas bordering on Hungary, Albania and Bulgaria. If ethnic criteria were to be consistently applied, the annexation of these parts of Serbia to neighboring states would be technically fairly simple. Serbia excluded the possibility of secession by these non-Serbian populations by declaring that the external borders of Yugoslavia were inviolable. What was intended to apply to Serbs in Croatia was not accepted by Serbia in reference to Albanians, Hungarians and Bulgarians, or even to Moslems in the Sandjak or Croats in Vojvodina. Since the Serbian view was discriminatory and totally unacceptable to the other nations of Yugoslavia, and since Serbia could not impose it by political means, it set out to achieve its territorial ambitions by direct action. To this end it used the Yugoslav National Army and other federal institutions, where Serbs formed the majority. The prime target was Croatia and the aim was obviously the forcible imposition of revised frontiers or the seizure of large areas of Croatian territory (more than 50%). "The Yugoslav Army has to establish new frontiers... and paved the road toward so called The Great Serbia.” |
Peggy
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... 256 ... If Operation "Storm" had not taken place, a Greater Serbia would exist today. The Serbian expansion toward the west has come to a halt for now. What expansion are you talking about? The Serbs lived in this area already. They were not expanding from Serbia. Where do you get this information from? They were ethnically cleansed from there not moving there. Look, I can see that you are full of it so I will just leave you to your own lies which you believe. It's amazing how you are prepared to totally rewrite history. You know, history is not something you can argue with, It's a fact you cannot change. |
bluerose799
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... If Operation "Storm" had not taken place, a Greater Serbia would exist today. The Serbian expansion toward the west has come to a halt for now. The status quo is very unstable and friable. If EU won’t consider the real threat today, then tomorrow is going to be too late. " the wolf changes his coat but not his vices" |
Peggy
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... Bluerose, take it easy. You will get a heart attack. My, the level of hatred here. In case you didn't know this but Serbia did NOT enter Croatia or Bosnia. Serbs from those areas resisted the Nazi Croatians and Bosnian Muslims (also Nazis from WW2) and fought to defend their homes and families. You are confusing Serbs from those areas with Serbs from Serbia. Serbs were under threat there. Tell me, who fired the first shot in Bosnia? You guessed it. It was Celo. He killed the groom at a Serbia wedding simply for waving a Serbian flag. This was obviously enough for Serbs to know that they are going to be under attack if they don't accept Muslim rule there. Have you heard of "Operation Storm"? Ethnic cleansing by the Croatians in all it's evil. Perhaps you can take this information and shove the one you gave us in the same place you suggested to Aleks. Don't give me this defence of "innocent" Croatians. So please do look at what you write before you write it. Wars are ugly and everyone is a killer and a victim. What is stopping you from seeing the whole truth is your blind hatred for Serbs. Now that's a fact. |
Aleks
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... Again, I will ask you to only post facts and not what you heard on internet forums and let me clear some of those misconceptions up for you. Serbia and Croatia were at war because CROATIA chose to succeed from YUGOSLAVIA just as did Bosnia. Why are you so quick to believe what people say, why don't you actually try to find out the truth before just posting comments on this website. Yes, Serbs have a song, but I guarantee you most Serbs didn't support what happened in Srebrenica and even Milosevic was overthrown by the SERB people, but since the US and its puppet NATO with the help of its puppets Croatia, Bosnia and Albania have been stripping Serbian land bit by bit, people are starting to wonder if Milosevic and Karadzic were so wrong to want to have an independent and pure Serbian state. I promise you this, before Kosovo's independence and the NATO bombing I my self was against Milosevic , but now that I see what Albanians, Croatians and Bosnians with the help of the US have done to Serbia, I wish that I could have been there is Mladic. Kosovo's independence is very dangerous, because it has brought Serbs together again and ultra nationalism has never been so powerful and I think these two are a very dangerous mix especially since America now has a Huge deficit and recession and one has to wonder how long can they stay in Kosovo. I think if Serbia has the chance to use its military muscle in Kosovo ever again it will be the worst slaughter of the 21st century. |
bluerose799
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... Dear ALEKS, It is true that you hate the Americans, Albanian, Bosnian and Croats. Let see what Croats are saying about you Serbs. This is a comment of a Croat, … maybe he is telling fiction stories too …??? !!! http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/004861.php “[shiva you fu… idiot. "Milosovic is one of the few people who realise that human rights and rules of war gannot apply to creatures who choose to live outside the parameters of being human" ???? Do you realize the serbs massacred 20,000 CATHOLIC CROATS in CROATIA! They came into Croatia just like they entered Bosnia-Hercegovina...so they can murder all non-serbs and make a "Greater Serbia." So take your comment and shove it up your a…! epg & feralee what fu… deception are you talking about!? I'd like to know. Here is the REALITY for your stupid brains: Serbs attacked Croats in CROATIA (1991). They murdered innocent civilians (children, and old grandmothers included) to they can force the Croats out of their own country. They ethnically cleansed 300,000 Croats from their own homes and from the territory the took for "their" homeland so they can connect it with Serbia, they shelled Croatian cities on a daily basis. Watch the movie "Harrison's Flowers" for the truth. Next the went on to attack and invade Bosnia-Hercegovina (1992)by murdering civilians, shelling Sarajevo, and raping 40,000 Bosnian Muslim and CROATIAN CATHOLIC women so they can have serbian babies. I'm sure that was all staged to make the serbs look bad...right? Like in Croatia, they occupied 70% of Bosnia and forced ALL non-serbs out so they can make "Greater Serbia". And that IS THE TRUTH coming from a Catholic Croat...not a Muslim or Jihadist. Bosnians are not mujahadin. They were never fanatically religious until the world turned their backs on Bosnia and then the only people who helped were the Saudis and other muslim nations. Still to this day they are not all devout. So fu… learn something... serbs = devils after all, they started 4 wars in 9 years: Slovenia (Catholic)(1991), Croatia (Catholic)(1991), Bosnia-Hercegovina (Catholic & Muslim) (1992), Kosova (Muslim) (1999) Posted by: Satnik at February 4, 2005 8:46 PM ]” The Army of the Land of Freedom stopped your bloody hands. First you were shocked, and now you hate them to death, because they took off the prey from your bloody mouths. Almost 10 years passed and you still smell blood, Dardanian blood, Bosnian blood, and Croatian blood, children blood, woman blood, and innocent people blood. If with more efforts you will succeed to get reed of the blood spots, you can’t get reed of your radicalism and chauvinism. It is there deep inside you, it is deep in your soul. http://srebrenica-genocide.blogspot.com/2006/06/serbian-song-praises-srebrenica.html 06 June, 2006 - NEW SERBIAN SONG PRAISES SREBRENICA GENOCIDE A human rights organization in Serbia said Tuesday that a newly distributed song praised the killing of Bosniaks (Muslim Bosnians) and described Srebrenica massacres as heroic acts that should be repeated in the future. The organization noted that lyrics of the song, with a rhythm similar to that of the Serbian national anthem, says "killing Bosnians in Srebrenica is a pride for all Serbians", describing the Serbian army general, Ratko Mladic, responsible for the massacres as a "great hero who slaughtered 7,000 people of the enemies". Italian proverb says that" the wolf changes his coat but not his vices": an English proverb tells us that "the wolf must die in his own skin." ... |
Aleks
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... Again ur arguments are pointless and flaud especially since u mention things like greater serbia because pretty much every balkan country has a greater version that never became reality especially greater albania which today is the only country ie albania is still trying to create a greater albania state where they have alreadystolen kosovo and are now demanding parts of macedonia, montenegro and other balkan states. SO please get all ur facts straight first before posting large comments. And when i looked up albania on google there was not a single mention of serbs ever doing anything to albania i think your ottomon friends owe you some explanations. Albania has only become a problem to serbia because it is trying to take kosovo from the serbs, but thankfully the world isnt blind and less then half of the world states have recignised kosovo and interestingly most if them have strong ties to the usa. In todays world i hate america more then i doo all the albanians bosnians ane croations put together because america is the true axis of evil in the 21st century. |
bluerose799
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... @ PEGYY & ALEKS Identically like Lady Macbeth, you hysterically are trying to wash yourself and you nation from blood and guilt. You realized that if dipped into the ocean it would turn from green to red, and started to hallucinate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_exodus Sanjak of Niš (1877/1878) In the Serbian Project Načertanije of 1844, the internal affairs minister of Serbia, Ilija Garašanin, expressed his territorial claims on the Albanian populated lands. According to Garašanin’s goals the Greater Serbia would include all the northern Albania down to Shkumbin river. During the Russo-Turkish War of the 19th century, Serbia and Montenegro, two Serbian monarchies in the Balkans, sided with the Tsar of Russia. This gave them the hope to apply the expansionist projects described by their scholars. The battlefield between the Ottoman Empire and the growing principality of Serbia was the Albanian populated Sanjak of Niš. As a result of violence, hundred thousands of Albanians were forced to leave their homes and settle as refugees in the inner parts of Kosovo Vilayet. Prosecuted by the Serbs, 160,000 Albanians emigrated. In the freezing weather of the grand winter 1877-1878 I saw undressed and bare people running away. They had left their warm rooms to remember them with nostalgia… Along the road Grdelica-Vranje and down to Kumanovo, on the both edges of the street you could notice the corpses of the children, old people and others who had died of cold. - Josif H. Kostic, teacher, eyewitnesses. Almost the entire population of the western part of Sanjak of Niš handed over to Serbia, was Albanian of Islamic religion… For hundreds of years our people enslaved the Serbian people in their lands and now we were being thrown out of their country! It was terrible! Therefore, when this sanjak was occupied by the Serbian army, the population could not face the invader. They all run away to the inner parts of Vilayet of Kosovo leaving the whole place abandoned. - John Ross, Commissioner for Serbia’s borders. http://angjelo.tripod.com/kosova/id2.html Serbia Ignored the Decisions of the Congress of Berlin The Congress of Berlin (13/04/1878 had on its agenda re-discussion on the Treaty of San Stefano, which had left hard consequences on the fate of the Albanians and Albania. San Stefano confronted the interests of the great powers at the international level as well. That is why the Congress of Berlin became not only an international forum from which the settling of international relationship in Europe was expected, but it also gave the Albanians hopes to escape the partition of their land. Nevertheless, the hopes of the Albanians and the requests of the delegation of the Albanian League of Prizren were ignored. Even the right of this delegation to participate at the Congress was denied. The Albanian territories were treated as a Turkish dominion', and the Albanians as Turkish citizens', although the Albanians had fought against Turkey! On the other way, if the national right will be recognised to the Albanians, they may become a factor of peace and barrier to tsar expansionism that endangers not only the Balkan Peninsula, but the European continent as well. This objective evaluation can be shown true and farsighted even nowadays. The fact that this problem was ignored is one of the main causes of the dangers which the present Europe has faced. The Congress of Berlin regarded the strategic interests of great powers, as well as plundering requests of the Balkan neighbors to the detriment of Albanian territories. Even though Serbia requested Kosova and the Dukagjin Plain, that were not handed over, it still managed to expand its territory from 34,000 km2 to 48,700 km2. This expansion of the territory was more valuable to it, as in that way it came close to Kosova. Montenegro was expanded from 4,700 km2 to 9,100 km2; as well as Greece from 51,860 km2 to 72,164 km2.43 This is only the tip of the iceberg ... |
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... I'm Serbian and obviously I'm a bit biast, but Bluerose799 from what fictional land you get your information from I have no idea. Non of your idea's have any historical proof in any book or internet search I have tried or read. What you are talking about is just pure nonsense at least have the curtsy to get actual facts and chune them to your liking instead of just making up random facts that your dad or grandfather told you. You should honestly do some research before posting random comments up. It's for your own good that you know the truth, this is why we have wars because poorly educated Albanians like you will just believe anything someone tells them instead of actually reading and finding out the truth. |
Peggy
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... Bluerose you are a very good fiction writer. You can start your own religion now equal to Scientology. This is all pure fiction. |
bluerose799
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... Serbia, gained full independence from the Ottoman Empire in 1878, and created a militaristic state. Since than, they continued military incursions against Kosovars, Albanians, Bosnians and Croatians. Their attempt was to kill as much as they could innocent habitants; with the only intention to take everything they had, including their land too. The Serbian army was not a defensive army, this was an aggressive and predatory army. On Jan. 6, 1929, King Alexander changed the name to the Kingdom of Yugoslavia. In 1922 the territories of Kosovo were split into three areas of the Kingdom of the Serbs, Croats and Slovenes, and were taken by force. Albanian and Kosovars were helpless against Yugoslav army incursions, because they didn’t have an army to defend their self. Learning lessons from the history, in 70 – 80ies Albania created a very well equipped and trained Army. The mission of this army was defensive, and never poses a threat to the neighbors. At this time Albania lost support from China, and was left alone. In many occasions Yugoslavia and Greece flexed military muscles near the border, posing a real threat for Albania. We have to answer same way with very expensive military exercises. Serbians never were sensible. They were and are opportunistic. At the first sign of weakness they attack. They did it again in 90ies, because the other side has no army. With Albania in 70ies things were different. To reach Tirana (Albania Capital) they had to deal with 2000 Tanks T-55, T-59, T-62 and T-69. They had to go through many Artillery Fields with, 7 x 7 = 49 barrels, 120mm, 122mm, 155mm and 160mm caliber. They had to absorb at least 100000ton explosive rounds 105mm to 160mm caliber. This not only wasn’t profitablel but also would create a very serious international incident. Actually the Albania and Kosova Army it doesn’t exist anymore. THIS IS A FACT PERIOD. Actually the Albanian and Kosovars are doing what E.U and N.A.T.O is telling them to do. This sounds scary. We are hoping for the best, without preparing for the worst, because there is nothing we can do. |
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... Wow NN you are really sad, you believe that Serbian forces with their guns cant run over little Albanian mountain men is this a joke. I really want to see them do this maybe 1999 will happen but this time instead of a Russian drunk for a president we go Vladimir Putin. Good luck NATO go and attack Russian gas lines you are so ignorant not to see the interests Russia has in Serbia. Serbia is Russia's Balkan base and they wont let anything attack it again for religious and economical reasons. |
Aleks
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... Also Bluerose7999 Lets not forget that Yugoslavia had the 3rd largest army in the world and I don't remember Serbia every having a problem with Albania until Tito brought in Albanians to work in Kosovo and the huge amount of Albanian refugees he allowed into Kosovo who were freeing the brutal Albanian system. I'm not making this stuff up, do a bit of reaserch if you don't believe me. And SEBANEU, why are you looking so far in the past at what happend, you can make those claims, but how would a could 100,000 Killed Albanians in 1878-1879 (Which ive never heard of before, but i'm not arguing this fact) Compare to the millions of Serbs who were slaughtered by Croats and Albanians during WWII when Albania and Croatia were pupet states of Germany. So please lets not go to the past, I'm a Serb and although I don't think Kosovo has the right to independence and I have many reasons, lets not dwell on the past and move towards a better future for our children and children's children, I think the Balkans have seen enough blood. |
Peggy
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... Bluerose, are you forgetting that the Yugoslav army was the fourth best army in Europe at that time? Where did Albania stand then? I am not trying to belittle Albanian army, but let's be realistic here. I seriously doubt that fear was a motive for not engaging in conflict. Better judgment and the stability of the Balknans would be more believable. Noboyd wants war and war is something we all try to avoid. I can only hope that war will never be necessary again, but thinking the way you do is just plain silly. I don't think Yugoslavia was afraid, only sensible. Maybe Albania was sensible as well and they sorted it out. Ever think of that? |
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... The difference between Albania and Kosova is: Albania Self Destroyed the Army. The Kosova army is VANISHED, eliminated by OCCUPATION FORCES, KFOR, UNMIK, ELUEX and N.A.T.O too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_Albania On September 1972, Northern Albanian Army, was deployed on the border with Yugoslavia, (Lan Lura, Zall Dardhe Area). It took only 80,000 very well, trained and armed Albanian to make Yugoslavs thinking twice, before passing the border of Albania. I was very proud, as a reservist, to be a member of the mighty Albanian Army, probably the largest army we had, up until that time. With a total effective of more than 200,000 man, with around 2000 tanks, type T-59, T-62 and 150, T-69, armored personal carriers, a prestigious heavy artillery, air force, rockets and more, Albanian Army was able to defend the territorial integrity, and the independence of the Nation. At that time Albanian, was telling Greeks and Yugoslavs, “put your tail, between your legs”, with ONE VOICE. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5670811707923224918 Albanian RENEGADES in close cooperation with FOREIGNERS, in a big, very well ORCHESTRATED CONSPIRACY, destroyed what was created in 80 years in less than 8 years. I don’t want to name names, and bring facts because learned from Kosta Trebicka bitter End. (Whom was Involved in the conspiracy too). |
Wim Roffel
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... Can someone please rewrite this article. There is something about the Serb army coming in Kosovo, something about a border that they don't recognize and something about land on the other side of the border. For me it is a confusing mix from which I cannot understand what is really happening. |
Sebaneau
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... The Albanians are a majority on the other side of the border, too. And do not forget about the 100,000 Albanians living in what is now southern Serbia and who were victims of Serbian ethnic cleansing in the winter of 1878-1879. |
Peggy
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... Well said Alex. How can someone give away something which doesn't belong to them? Like US giveing away Serbian land Kosovo. The Albanians don't even bother asking that question because they know the answer. It cannot be done without approval of the rightful owner. Albanians surely know how to apply double standards. |
Aleks
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... “How can you give somebody else’s property to someone else without the owner’s presence? How? I do not know how,” said Fejzullah Jonuzi, a resident. This is a great point from this Albanian man, maybe he can then explain how it is OK for thousands of Albanians today living in Serb houses in Kosovo, who don't pay rent and acknowledge stolen properties as their own, which they forcefully took. |
NN
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... It is only our fault if the serbian forces cross kosovas border.Imagine Kosovo force crossing the Serbian border the serb inhabitants would fight them back. |
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