Comments for Rice: US will not allow Kosovo partitioning at http://www.newkosovareport.com , comment 1 to 14 out of 14 comments http://www.newkosovareport.com Wed, 09 Jul 2008 07:46:51 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.2 http://www.newkosovareport.com/20080502921/Politics/Rice-US-will-not-allow-Kosovo-partitioning.html#comment-1517 To David, David you can seriously wipe the foam coming out of your mouth now. No need to be all angry typical serbs and their lack of controlling their violence. First of all how about you read some history and TRUE facts and by history I don’t mean Slavic history that twists everything, to suit their needs. By history I mean real scholars, neutral literature that is neither Serbian nor Albanian.. Kosova was NEVER Serbian. Kosova was Yugoslaivan yes. It was a free floating community than it was just incorporated into Yugoslavia. And what you forgot to mention was in the Illyrian era Kosova was called DARDANIA. suggesting that it was always Albanian. Serbian people migrated from the Carpathians in 6AD, while Illyrians (Albanians) were there since 1000BC. If you know your history you would know that this is centuries before. Also, besides this fact Kosova was under the rule of the Ottomans longer than Yugoslavia, so should we just say Kosova is Ottoman?? You cant because Kosova was Dardania was Albanian. As for your claim of calling me an Albanian, I am a Canadaian who has a Masters degree in Human Rights and History, I was very interested in the Balkans (which should've been called ILLYRIA) that is why I know so much. Your other claim about serbia being backed up by the strongest countries in the world?? are you seriously going to claim that, Ok so Russia is the strongest right? Oh and China, which by the way China is NEUTRAL they didn't say yes or no to Kosova‘s freedom. I'm sorry to inform you that Kosova has been recognized by 80% of the strongest countries in the world which is USA, CANADA, GERMANY, GREAT BRITIAN, FRANCE, ITALY... etc. Of course in serbia Russia is always the strongest, in the rest of the world the countries above are the strongest economical countries, hands down. As for human trafficking, that is a false book by a ridiculous person known as Carla Del Ponte, that book is her pathetic way of making money from a rumor she heard. Those claims have never been proved and never will be proved because they never happened. You know what's been proved, the ethnic cleansing done on Albanians by serbs, the little children they massacred, the woman the men, that is REALITY. the Mass graves found, the burning of 80% of Kosovo (which was Albanian houses, institutions etc.) And here you are crying over “burned churches”, - What is more Important the Life of a child or a burned church that can be rebuilt? We know you as a serb would say a church because serbs don’t see an Albanian child as worth living, well that’s too bad because the world has seen that they have realized that people don’t want to live with you, even your brothers from Montenegro separated, Kosova has as much right as any other state to separate. what is more important if I was a Serb I would be ashamed to tell someone that I am because of what my people have done. Serbia caused 4 wars and genocides in ONE decade. I’m sure that is something you are proud of david, but in the civilized world that is nothing more than INHUMANE. - Johnny Sun, 11 May 2008 16:23:57 +0100 http://www.newkosovareport.com/20080502921/Politics/Rice-US-will-not-allow-Kosovo-partitioning.html#comment-1513 @Johnny Unsurprisingly, you seem to have your facts totally wrong! You need to do some research and think before you write. Firstly, kosovo IS a PROVANCE OF SERBIA and has NOT been recognized by the UN. The VAST majority of countries in the world have not recognized Kosovo, and never will! This has been confirmed by the worlds most powerful nations, like Russian, China, India and Brazil to name just a few. Sorry Johnny, but thats the LAW. However, judging by your history, I understand that you Albanians don't have any respect for the rule of law. If Albanians want to live in independence, and speak their own dead language and commit their crimes, then they should go and move to Albania and not in SERBIA! Secondly, PLEASE do some research before you post STUPID remarks. Albanians are a MINORITY in SERBIA! Albanians have no intention of giving ANY rights to Serbs who are within their home land of Kosovo. This is just a PR stunt by their terrorist leader. The majority of Kosovo Serbs were killed or expelled from their homes by terrorist albanians and are now IDP (internally displaced people) Serbs have even been used for human organ trafficking. Hundreds of Christian Orthodox Churches have been destroyed and burnt to the ground. So Johnny, your comments just prove just how uneducated, one sided and anti Serbian you really are, and just reinforces the need for the Serbs to have their own independent elections within their own country. - David Sun, 11 May 2008 08:34:02 +0100 http://www.newkosovareport.com/20080502921/Politics/Rice-US-will-not-allow-Kosovo-partitioning.html#comment-1509 David, First of all Kosova is not a province it is a COUNTRY! secondly if Serbs want to vote in Serbian elections they can simply cross the border and vote there and live there. But Kosova is a cdemocratic country, that is why it is lletting it's minority vote whiich is less than 5% serb. What about when Kosova was under the rule of Yugoslavia, and the MAJORITY in Kosova were Albanian that is 90% this means 2 million Albanians and they didn't even have a right to speak their own language let alone vote. So your comment just proved that Kosova treats its people better than the Serbian government ever will or ever did. - Johnny Fri, 09 May 2008 23:13:27 +0100 http://www.newkosovareport.com/20080502921/Politics/Rice-US-will-not-allow-Kosovo-partitioning.html#comment-1508 A total of 201,751 Serbian citizens are registered on the electoral list for the Serbian local elections in Kosovo, the first organized by Belgrade in its southern province since 1999. Both Kosovo Serbs displaced in central Serbia and those still living in their homes in the province will have the right to vote. Kosovo Serbs will also vote in Serbian parliamentary elections. The total number of polling stations in Kosovo is 157, organized in all areas populated by Serbs, but also by the Gorani community in southwestern Kosovo. The Kosovo Serbs aim to elect local representatives, but also to create their own assembly, in defiance of the ethnic Albanian opposition in Pristina. Pristina, which unilaterally proclaimed a secession in mid-February but does not effectively control Serb areas, said it would "ignore" Serbian elections. - David Fri, 09 May 2008 18:57:14 +0100 http://www.newkosovareport.com/20080502921/Politics/Rice-US-will-not-allow-Kosovo-partitioning.html#comment-1501 To Kosova is(nt) serbia, One thing to say: Beograd THREATENTHS serbian Kosovars by calling them Hypocrates and even with death, if they cooperate with the Kosovar government. So if you agree with threats from beograd, than I guess you are what you are --- a typical serb!! surprise surprise (guess you forgot to mention this little part in your little comment)!! - Tringa Thu, 08 May 2008 03:58:14 +0100 http://www.newkosovareport.com/20080502921/Politics/Rice-US-will-not-allow-Kosovo-partitioning.html#comment-1497 Dear PETER, No mater what you say, you cant play with the facts. This is not an article. This is the testimony of vice president of Post-Conflict Peace and Stability Operations DANIEL SERVER, before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. If you don’t know what is this, you are advised to make some research. No mater that I provided the source, and there were quotes in my post, I am giving you some help. Because you don’t know how to copy and paste, here is the article. I repeat again isn’t me this is Mr. Daniel Server who wrote this testimony. Kosovo Isn’t the Problem, Serbia Is Testimony of Vice President for Post-Conflict Peace and Stability Operations Daniel Serwer before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. March 4, 2008 http://www.usip.org/congress/testimony/2008/0304_serwer.html “It is a pleasure to be here today to offer my personal views—not those of the U.S. Institute of Peace, which does not take positions on policy issues—on the challenges facing the United States and Europe in the aftermath of Kosovo’s independence. My main point is this: Kosovo isn’t the problem, Serbia is. I will offer a policy on Serbia that departs from what we have been doing. I call it the Clear Path Forward, because it makes clear what Belgrade needs to do to make its way towards Europe. Kosovars celebrate but have not misbehaved. Independence generated excitement and celebration in Kosovo, but its Albanian population—about 90 per cent of the total—has refrained from violence against minorities. Despite provocations, Kosovars have not sought, as some feared they might, to chase Serbs from the new state. This correct behavior needs to continue. Kosovo needs massive assistance, but it also needs wise restraint to develop as a state. While providing international judges and prosecutors as well as police monitors, we need to be careful not to create dependency: politicians who feel no obligation to take on tough issues because they know the internationals will act. States need to make their own mistakes. We should intervene only to prevent the potentially fatal ones. Belgrade is trying to turn back the clock While Albanians celebrate, Serbs are protesting. Serb police supported rioters who burned UN and Kosovo police checkpoints near the now international border. Serbia’s minister for Kosovo hailed these efforts as consonant with government policy, thus disrespecting UN Security Council resolution 1244, to which Belgrade often appeals, and causing Kosovo Serbs to ask him to resign. Young extremists attacked the U.S. and other embassies, left unguarded during a government-endorsed demonstration. There have also been riots outside Belgrade, as well as attacks on independent media. The Serbian government is trying to turn back the clock. Parliament, where no Kosovar has sat since Milosevic deprived the province of autonomy almost 20 years ago, announced it had annulled the independence declaration and declared deployment of an EU mission to maintain rule of law unacceptable. The Supreme Court failed to act when the Serbian government struck Kosovars from the voter rolls to ensure approval of a new constitution prohibiting recognition of Kosovo’s independence, but it quickly denounced the independence declaration as illegal. The Prime Minister praised the youthful rioters after the U.S. embassy attack, accused the President of the United States of violence against Serbia and claimed, “As long as the Serbian people exist, Kosovo remains Serbia,” no matter what its population wants. Serbia’s ambassador to Washington has been recalled. Serbia’s president has pledged he will never accept Kosovo independence. One of its leading bishops has called for the Serbian army and police to retake Kosovo, after rearming with Russian supplies. Belgrade has encouraged secession rumblings in the Serb half of Bosnia. Continued - bluerose799 Wed, 07 May 2008 15:03:26 +0100 http://www.newkosovareport.com/20080502921/Politics/Rice-US-will-not-allow-Kosovo-partitioning.html#comment-1496 Kosovo Serbs are planning to establish their own assembly in the Serb-populated areas of Kosovo following Serbia’s parliamentary and municipal elections on May 11. "Serbs in Kosovo need their own representative body to realise their legal and legitimate rights. It's essential, bearing in mind the plan for the functional division of Kosovo," a Serb leader in nothern Kosovo, Marko Jaksic, said. The "functional division" implies that Kosovo Serbs will be in charge of their own affairs in Kosovo - with full support from Belgrade, and in cooperation with Unmik and Kfor - but it does not mean formal territorial partition of the province. "It's the only way Serbs can survive in this territory," Jaksic said. Kosovo Serbs have presented several dozen electoral lists for the Sunday elections. Serbs in Kosovo are opposed to the Albanian unilateral declaration of independence of Kosovo and refuse to cooperate with the Pristina authorities. - KOSOVO JE SRBIJA Wed, 07 May 2008 14:52:00 +0100 http://www.newkosovareport.com/20080502921/Politics/Rice-US-will-not-allow-Kosovo-partitioning.html#comment-1490 To Peter, Actually you seem to be pretty pro-Serbian because I only see you attacking BLUEROSE799, while Sam there in the first post is claiming that Albanians are nothing more than criminals. So if you really were not taking any sides you should take Sam's comment into consideration too because it is also filled with hatred. To Tringa, I completley agree with you. The REALITY is Kosova is INDEPENDENT including Mitrovica, serbs just want that part because it is rich in natural resources, nice try Serbia you should of thought of that before deciding to ethnic cleans Albanians in their own land. - Vesa Tue, 06 May 2008 20:33:57 +0100 http://www.newkosovareport.com/20080502921/Politics/Rice-US-will-not-allow-Kosovo-partitioning.html#comment-1484 To Ron and Sam, first of all, I would appreciate it if you use your real Serbian names in your posts so that people can know that this is SERBIAN PROPAGANDA talking and not some made up names like Ron and Sam trying to pretend you are English while hiding behind your little computer screens --- typical Serbs. If you are going to make a comment at least have the courage of speaking for yourself as yourself not as a made up character that you vile to be. Now that that’s cleared up, Kosovo partitioning will not happen. Mitrovica is rich in natural resources and serbia wants to at least get something out of the Independence of Kosova --- guess what, what’s done is done. As for your claims about Kosova's independence being false, all I have to say is when Independence is declared once there is no turning back and that does include the northern part of Kosova too. In case you did not see the Kosovar flag, the map of Kosova is on it - you know why the UN did that?? It was because it showed the clear borders of Kosova - as it will not partition. Oh wait - maybe we can change our flag and adjust the little map on it perhaps giving the northern part to Serbia, and while were at it lets just tell all those countries that have recognized it and the countries that are in the process of recognizing a free Kosova that they unfortunately wasted their time and Kosova will go back to being what it was - under the rule of Barbarians. Also lets close the embassies that have already been opened in Kosova, and tell those countries that they are in a false state - better yet lets go back in time to February 17th and never let it happen. Wishful thinking, isn’t it? OK now you can go back to writing more ridiculous comments under false names behind your little computer screens;) GOOD LUCK! - Tringa Tue, 06 May 2008 05:23:30 +0100 http://www.newkosovareport.com/20080502921/Politics/Rice-US-will-not-allow-Kosovo-partitioning.html#comment-1483 Whilst the Kosovo Albanians sufferings under Yugoslavia and Milosevic Serbia must not be underestimated, as I mentioned somewhere else on this site, Kosovo is no "sui generis" case at all, and Kosovo independence has been just a matter of the sheer luck of being found at the right time at right place of history. Kosovo is, nowadays, a legal equivalent of Taiwan: no UN representation in the foreseeable future, not the faintest perspective of joining the EU, and the teensiest possibility of maybe getting, one day, some membership in some international sport competition, this being still subjected to the unlikely event of Serbia lifting vetoes, like PR China did with Taiwan (or Chinese Taipei for the International Olympic Commitee). Just like what happened to Taiwan, Kosovo might also one day be abandoned by its sponsors (and the US above all), should the international situation change unexpectedly. Still, probably the best and most realistic solution for Kosovo is partitioning, in order to appease Serbia, at the same time getting rid of staunch internal opposition and creating the only possible chance for a proper international recognition, such as recognition from Serbia itself, no matter how long it might take. Invoking the same "territorial integrity" principle Kosovo independence has just broken is, I am sorry, laughable. Pathetic and shameless of the US to make use of such an untenable argument. - Gianluca Mon, 05 May 2008 21:54:07 +0100 http://www.newkosovareport.com/20080502921/Politics/Rice-US-will-not-allow-Kosovo-partitioning.html#comment-1480 bluerose799 You sound like a sad and bitter little man. Instead of spewing out your hate filled propaganda, why not address the issues? Or better still, just move on. Sam makes some very valid points, that are a clear concern for not only Europe, but the rest of the world. And they are not preo Serb. I have read similar articals coming from the EU, US, and Europol. I am Australian, and i am neither pro-albanian or pro Serbian. But when i read hateful posts such as yours, i find it easy to take sides. Im sure a new and independent Kosova does not need or would want to be associated with racist and hate filled radicals like yourself! You do nothing to help the albanian cause, you serve only as a source of negativity and cast a bad light on decent peace loving albanians who just want to get on with their lives. bluerose799, i sincerly hope get some theraphy and learn to deal with your hate and racisim. Not just for your own good, but for the good of all albanians. Albanians, and indeed the rest of europe has moved on. There is not room in europe for hate filled people like you. Please stop giving honest decent albanians a bad name! Otherwise you will end up being nothing more than a bitter, lonely little man whose rhetoric will be forgotten by the rest of the albanians who would have moved on to a brighter and happier future. - Peter Mon, 05 May 2008 02:03:45 +0100 http://www.newkosovareport.com/20080502921/Politics/Rice-US-will-not-allow-Kosovo-partitioning.html#comment-1469 Brainwashed by their Government Serbian are living in a virtual reality created by the (Serbo – Centrist) and (Serbo – Chauvinist) propaganda. Source: Briefings and Congressional Testimony. Kosovo Isn’t the Problem, Serbia Is Testimony of Vice President for Post-Conflict Peace and Stability Operations Daniel Serwer before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. March 4, 2008 http://www.usip.org/congress/testimony/2008/0304_serwer.html Based on his statements, Serbia is wrong. “My main point is this: Kosovo isn’t the problem, Serbia is. I will offer a policy on Serbia that departs from what we have been doing. I call it the Clear Path Forward, because it makes clear what Belgrade needs to do to make its way towards Europe”. Based on his statements, Serbia is trying to turn back the wheel of history “Since Milosevic’s fall, the EU has already provided billions of euros in aid and preferential credits; the U.S. has provided $635 million in assistance. Serbia has pocketed these incentives and provided little in return since 2003. It is time for Washington and Brussels to get smarter. While hoping that Serbia will come to its senses sooner rather than later, both need to plan for a long period in which Belgrade, aligned with Moscow, will try to block NATO and EU expansion in the Balkans. Transitional democracies in Croatia, Macedonia, Albania and Kosova will have to share the Western Balkans with a backward-looking, resentful and ill-spirited Serbia. NATO and the EU should move quickly to welcome as members those countries that are doing the right thing, in the hope that will encourage Serbia to come along. Washington and Brussels should also signal that they are determined not to give Serbia any more freebies. Ambassadors should be recalled for consultations on a new, coordinated EU/U.S. Serbia policy. The people, including Serbian security officials, who participated in attacking checkpoints inside Kosova should be brought to trial quickly in a Pristina courtroom, under EU supervision.” And the conclusion: “We have done the right thing to join our European partners in recognizing Kosovo as a sovereign state, a move that has prevented much worse violence and instability than we have seen so far. We need now to repair relations with Serbia by delineating a Clear Path Forward and patiently awaiting Belgrade’s realization that its citizens will be far better off if their government embarks on it. It may take a long time for that to happen.” What they are conveying to Serbia is: 1 - Kosovo isn’t the problem, Serbia is. 2 - Serbia, Come back to your senses. 3 - Serbia, Live Kosova Alone. 4- Serbia, Don’t mess up with your neighbors. Unfortunately this is not a dream, this is a reality that Serbian are facing now, and from which can’t escape with lies, sabotage, diversionist or terrorist and criminal actions. - bluerose799 Sat, 03 May 2008 03:55:59 +0100 http://www.newkosovareport.com/20080502921/Politics/Rice-US-will-not-allow-Kosovo-partitioning.html#comment-1468 Territorial integrity of Kosovo? What about the territorial integrity of Serbia? No double standards please. Let's stop this bad joke! - Ron Sat, 03 May 2008 03:09:30 +0100 http://www.newkosovareport.com/20080502921/Politics/Rice-US-will-not-allow-Kosovo-partitioning.html#comment-1463 I find it hard to believe that any civilized person, let alone a nation can take Kosovo independence seriously? There are so many other, far more IMPORTANT issues that Kosovo needs to address before it can even start thinking of independence. I read that according to law enforcement agencies that are run by the UN, that Kosovo is the most important interim destination for opiates and heroin coming from Afghanistan! It is believed that up to four or five tons of heroin is brought across Kosovo's borders every month! The drug then reaches the EU countries through Albanian distribution rings. (Rastislav Báchora, Notes from Southeastern Europe, 2008) And that’s not all! According to Europol, ethnic Albanian organized crime groups now control 80 percent of heroin smuggling in some northern European countries, and 40 percent in Western Europe!! Analysts paint a picture of a clan-based society in which a handful of criminals control the population and are tolerated by bureaucrats from Europe and the rest of the world, who have come here under the guise of enlightening the poor Kosovars. The open support for leading political and criminal figures in Kosovo is greatly harming the credibility of international institutions and is one of the main reasons why Kosovo independence is still being strongly resisted by many countries. It's estimated that 20 percent of Kosovars are illiterate, while more than 90 percent have a minimal education. This is NOT due to Serbian oppression. As it was compulsory for all citizens to be educated in the Yugoslav language, however Albanians chose NOT to do this! Officially, close to half of Kosovo's residents live on less than 3 euros or $4.80 a day. Kosovo's per capita gross national product is lower than that of North Korea or Papua New Guinea! It has one of the worst balances of trade worldwide and Europe's highest fertility rate! Youth unemployment is constant at 75 percent! Why has NOTHING happened to stop this illegal trade of drugs?? Why are criminals in-charge of this country??? I don’t know about you people, but as a European citizen, I don’t want my children to become innocent victims of these gangsters! - Sam Fri, 02 May 2008 23:34:10 +0100